"Geometry was in high esteem with them, therefore, none were more honourable than
mathematicians; but we have confined this art to bare measuring and calculating." - Cicero
I wanted to quote this earlier on; but, i couldn't find it.
I've pointed out that the eras of mathematics are clearly seen by the names of the mathematicians; the earlist mathematicians known were Greeks; then the Arabs, and then Europe in general; today, it's gotten much more international as the invisible hand of our technological dependence has forced people of all faiths to do some mathematics. But, what's remarkable is that the there were no Roman mathematicians.
The romans believed in playing the social politics game of mythology making to solve their problems. They just pointed swords at those who knew to get them to make their public works.
The Romans fell because they were not intellectual; today, society(people who are not individuals) has learned to speak in a kind of apologetic avoid the truth kind of way. Everybody is right all at the same time; there is no truth(technically, there is no absolute truth). Churches everywhere have a priest per major and sometimes more smaller denominations.
Considering that every child is born with curiosity, it seems that I am right that people grow realizing that if they just if they just play it safe, they get their money and sex.
People everywhere(see Stuart Kauffman's "Reinventing the Sacred") are trying to show that because we don't know and can't know everything, then we should mix rationality with irrationality. This includes the nanotechnologists themselves. Well, we're going to be living in a logan's run world.
Emperor Constantine spent his life in all this religious politics instead of trying to get the mathematical education to run the grain mills at places like Barbegal(see my post about James Burkes "Connections: episode 4" it starts out by showing what an amazing industrial facility the romans had going; this one was in what's now called France).
He went through his life saying he was a Pagan while in the background, he and Eusebius were organizing the Necine conference to decide which Gospels were to be the official gospels. When he was on his deathbed, he finaly allowed his true allegiance to be heard; he converted to christianity; this after all his time doing the Necine conferences organizing christianity. The fact that he kept a Pagan public face throughout his whole life shows that he knew religious politics(just tell those of a given faith that you beleive in their religion and your friends; otherwise, you have to deal with all the fear mongering that the religious are).
I've further pointed this out about Constantine because 1) he split the Roman empire in half and created the Byzantine empire, and 2) people like to say that Rome wasn't destroyed by religion per see buy by the Barbarian invaders.
The thing about the Germanic tribes invading the city of Rome is that they laid siege to it 'for over a year.' The Romans had 'roads' criss-crossing the entire empire; it's what allowed them to get around and keep things in check for almost a thousand years(no other nation has lasted so long). If the Byzantine's wanted to save the Romans from getting taken, they could have sent an army to take out those Germanic tribes laying Siege to the city. But, they didn't(despite pleas from the romans for help).
Why didn't the Byzantine's stop the German's from putting the last nail in the Roman coffine? The same reason Emperor Constantine split the empire, moved the Roman capital to Constantinople . . . becaue the Romans were to strong of a Pagan tradition to ever convert fully to Christianity. Emperor Constantine and the Byzantine's saw this. They grew up knowing the constant back and forth murdering of emperors(as I note in my "gospel of truth" I do believe, Emperor Domitian was taken out by christians after he took out Epipanthius, a guy who knew Josephus and Paul and ran around in the Lavant with Paul. I'd have to look it up, but I know of other Roman emperors who were assasinated because either they took the pagan stance or they took the christian stance; it didn't matter which; Emperor Constantine knew this). The Byzantinian's knew that by allowing the Romans to get it, they help convert more people to Christianity.
The Roman empire was destroyed by a religious civil war.
I wanted to quote this earlier on; but, i couldn't find it.
ReplyDeleteI've pointed out that the eras of mathematics are clearly seen by the names of the mathematicians; the earlist mathematicians known were Greeks; then the Arabs, and then Europe in general; today, it's gotten much more international as the invisible hand of our technological dependence has forced people of all faiths to do some mathematics. But, what's remarkable is that the there were no Roman mathematicians.
Why? Because they're society didn't value it.
The romans believed in playing the social politics game of mythology making to solve their problems. They just pointed swords at those who knew to get them to make their public works.
ReplyDeleteThe Romans fell because they were not intellectual; today, society(people who are not individuals) has learned to speak in a kind of apologetic avoid the truth kind of way. Everybody is right all at the same time; there is no truth(technically, there is no absolute truth). Churches everywhere have a priest per major and sometimes more smaller denominations.
ReplyDeleteConsidering that every child is born with curiosity, it seems that I am right that people grow realizing that if they just if they just play it safe, they get their money and sex.
People everywhere(see Stuart Kauffman's "Reinventing the Sacred") are trying to show that because we don't know and can't know everything, then we should mix rationality with irrationality. This includes the nanotechnologists themselves. Well, we're going to be living in a logan's run world.
Tusculan Disputations, Book 1, paragraph 2
ReplyDeletehttp://wadsworth.com/history_d/special_features/ilrn_legacy/wawc1c01c/content/wciv1/readings/tusculan.html
Emperor Constantine spent his life in all this religious politics instead of trying to get the mathematical education to run the grain mills at places like Barbegal(see my post about James Burkes "Connections: episode 4" it starts out by showing what an amazing industrial facility the romans had going; this one was in what's now called France).
ReplyDeleteHe went through his life saying he was a Pagan while in the background, he and Eusebius were organizing the Necine conference to decide which Gospels were to be the official gospels. When he was on his deathbed, he finaly allowed his true allegiance to be heard; he converted to christianity; this after all his time doing the Necine conferences organizing christianity. The fact that he kept a Pagan public face throughout his whole life shows that he knew religious politics(just tell those of a given faith that you beleive in their religion and your friends; otherwise, you have to deal with all the fear mongering that the religious are).
I've further pointed this out about Constantine because 1) he split the Roman empire in half and created the Byzantine empire, and 2) people like to say that Rome wasn't destroyed by religion per see buy by the Barbarian invaders.
ReplyDeleteThe thing about the Germanic tribes invading the city of Rome is that they laid siege to it 'for over a year.' The Romans had 'roads' criss-crossing the entire empire; it's what allowed them to get around and keep things in check for almost a thousand years(no other nation has lasted so long). If the Byzantine's wanted to save the Romans from getting taken, they could have sent an army to take out those Germanic tribes laying Siege to the city. But, they didn't(despite pleas from the romans for help).
Why didn't the Byzantine's stop the German's from putting the last nail in the Roman coffine? The same reason Emperor Constantine split the empire, moved the Roman capital to Constantinople . . . becaue the Romans were to strong of a Pagan tradition to ever convert fully to Christianity. Emperor Constantine and the Byzantine's saw this. They grew up knowing the constant back and forth murdering of emperors(as I note in my "gospel of truth" I do believe, Emperor Domitian was taken out by christians after he took out Epipanthius, a guy who knew Josephus and Paul and ran around in the Lavant with Paul. I'd have to look it up, but I know of other Roman emperors who were assasinated because either they took the pagan stance or they took the christian stance; it didn't matter which; Emperor Constantine knew this). The Byzantinian's knew that by allowing the Romans to get it, they help convert more people to Christianity.
The Roman empire was destroyed by a religious civil war.