Thursday, October 13, 2016

astro picture for the day - Quote for the day / transition from magic dark ages era to the Renaissance

Image Credit & Copyright: S. Mazlin, J. Harvey, R. Gilbert, & D. Verschatse (SSRO/PROMPT/UNC)

"Science is a world view based on the notion that we can plan by understanding." - Jacob Bronowski

One of the last major additions to my "Gospel of Truth" is the evidences preserved in the old testament about magic.  As one can see, the evidences suggests there was a kind of movement to either eliminate the previous world of magic.  Likewise, in the new testament, I find evidence in the Pauline epistles for efforts to ban the Greek sciences and philosophy.  But, the religious efforts to do so clearly could not. Although, do to taking over the Roman empire, they did thrust Europe into a thousand years of dark ages. Jacob Bronowski finds in his "Magic, Science, and Civilization" evidence that the magical world couldn't be thrust away so easily as well. 

In fact, Jacob Bronowski shows that the mathematical science world may have been inspired by the failures of Magic to accomplish it's goals - to control nature. Jacob quotes a Pietro Pompanazzi, who lived around 1460 to 1620, and was part of the Bologna school(if there's any readers who may have seen the James Burke "The Day the Universe Changed" episode 2 before that series . . . and the Connections series . . . was pulled down from youtube) . . .

"It is possible to justify any experience by natural causes and natural causes alone. There is no reason that could ever compel us to make any perception depend on demonic powers. There is no point in introducing supernatural agents . It is ridiculous and frivolous to abandon the evidence of natural reason and to search for things that are neither probably nor rational." - Of Incantations(here, through Jacob's "Magic, Science, and Civilization"s book

Also, in episode 3 of James Burke's "The Day the Universe Changed", James mentions the Medici as taking kind of center stage of the Italian Renaissance wealth. Jacob Bronowski notes that a Cosimo Medici(well, o.k. a quick wiki search suggests he was the first Medici) translated and printed out many books on "black magic" trying to find a way to learn the universe. He had a secretary, a Fecino.  Copernicus was influenced to his sun-centered cosmology by a little book by Fecino - of the Sun. Then in quick succession, lots of people were publishing books on 'white' magic versus 'black' magic. A Giambattista della Parta, in 1558, published "Natural Magic." By 1620, Francis Bacon makes his famous quote, "Knowledge is Power."

Bacon's "Knowledge is Power" doesn't mean something political.  He's saying mathematical/science knowledge is the way to understand nature - not magic. Magic tried to use spells and such to control . . . to gain power over nature. Jacob points out that in magic, one often tries to control nature by having power over it and rewinding it back. He points out the backward broomstick you see in some pictures of witches. And then, there's the famous biblical passage of Joshus making the sun stop and turn back.(I subtly remember a Genesis book passage about turning back the mechanism of nature; it's an idea a bit like turning wheel backwards from what it was doing before; the magicians hoped to by able to do that to nature). Around renaissance time, people were coming up with a different idea - to learn nature, one must become harmonious with it.  Padua university intellecuals started thinking mathematics was the key to tapping into this harmony of the universe. Pietro also studied at Padua.

Jacob Bronowski also notes that Kepler was also influenced by magic about his idea of gravitation.  He tried to understand nature by both what magical knowledge tried to accomplish things, and the way mathematics tried to accomplish things. He tried to understand the orbits of planets by means of the five platonic solids.  Because they could be embedded in one another, they might be the key to the different size orbits of the planets! He of course saw the Tycho Brahe data and came to understand/appreciate a principle of science - when the data says no, discard the theory.

Kepler also had an idea of gravitation he got from magical thinkers. Kepler got his idea from a Nicholas of Cusa . . . who got his idea from a Pico Della Mirandola(who also had this idea that mankind is unique because it creates) . . . who got his ideas from a Dionysus(whom turned out to be a fake named person and stole his ideas from someone else back in 500 A.D. Christianity).  The idea is that everything attacts because love permeates the universe.  Everything has love(is that true? what about hate?).  The quote . . .

"I transform the lover into the beloved and the beloved into the lover. The lover becomes the beloved because the lover dying, lives in the beloved. And the beloved becomes the lover for he learns to know himself in the lover and gets to love himself through the lover. And while he is thus loving himself in loving the lover he loves the lover who himself has become the beloved."

This magical passage shares a striking similarity to the vague statements that can prove anything.  As I've mentioned here and there, Kurt Gödel published his "Incompleteness/Inconsistency" proofs of axiomatic systems.  He basically says, a consistent finite set of axioms cannot prove an infinity of truths(consistent statements).  But, an inconsistent finite set of axioms can. Above we have a magical passage that can prove anything and everything.

It also seems similar to the Bishop of Constantinople Gregorius of Nyssa quote that I've quoted many times thoughout this blog. See perhaps my Sophis/Silas post.  But, I've mentioned these things recently as well.

Around Renaissance times, clearly, as indicated above, people were tired so such unwieldy/non-constructive thoughts, and found the answer in mathematics.

- Oct 18, 2016 additional thoughts . . . magic should be viewed as an effort to learn the universe without the hard mathematics way.  It's "black" magic. The mathematics of tens of thousands of years to three and four thousand years ago was not advanced enough to answer some of the simplest questions. Some questions are just not approachable; or, sometimes, there were mathematical answers, but the mathematics was too hard for many; so, many tried to come up with 'magic' supernatural solutions.  Magic and religion really are efforts to circumvent the hard mathematics way, and get at nature without blood/sweat and tears. They want an easy way to understand things - not having to actually learn anything.

Tuesday, September 6, 2016

astro picture for the day

Image Credit: ESA/NASA Hubble Space Telescope

- There's ideas that are about defining things clearly and openly - like mathematics.  Then, there's ideas that try to evade thinking. If you confront someone about something, if you try to show logic and facts that reveal things, most people(in my experience) use all kinds of evasive language. I've posted before about a remarkable historical piece of evidence for this in Bishop of Constantinople Gregorius of Nyssa noticed this type of thinking and complained,

"People swarm everywhere, talking of incomprehensible matters, in hovels, streets and square, marketplaces, and crossroads. When I ask how many oboloi I have to pay, they answer with hairsplitting arguments about the born and the unborn. If I inquire the price of bread, I am told that the father is greater than the son. I call a servant to tell me whether my bath is ready; he rejoins that the son was created out of nothing."

And I've pointed out some evidences using the movie "The Da Vinci Code."  I could point out some personal examples(from my family), but I've recently found some more interesting historical evidences for this . . .

- One is in Copernicus's "On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres" book.  It's noted many times that a person, not so close to Copernicus, put in a preface to his work(Copernicus saw his book on his deathbed) that the ideas of the sun centered solar system(they thought it was the universe at the time) is "just" a mathematical fiction.

People who play these 'acting up' games often use this dismissive "just" language.  Oh, it's just this or that; don't mind it.

- More historical evidences - John Milton in his "Paradise Lost", book VIII,

"Sollicit not thy thoughts with matters hid,
Leave them to God above, him serve and feare;
Of other creatures, as him pleases best,
Whatever plac't, let him dispose: joy thou
In what he gives to thee, this Paradise
And thy fair Eve: Heav'n is for thee too high
To know what passes there; be lowlie wise:
Think onely what concernes thee and they being;
Dream not of other Worlds."

I put the last statement in bold.  Not that there's plenty of Nazi "only think what I tell you to think" before that last statement; but, it is the most clear statement

Milton visited Galileo, when under house arrest - to experience, to see, and to gloat over him.

- As stated, I've posted about this before in my "Sophie and Silas" and later the "Agnostic and Irreligious" post.

Sunday, September 4, 2016

astro picture for the day/ Carl Sagan's first documentary? - The Violent Universe

This is the best science documentary finding since the "Physics and Reality" documentary I posted maybe a year ago or so.  This one goes back to 1969.  It may be Carl Sagan's first appearance in television documentaries as well. I'd say it's his best!

This video documentary captures the realization that the predictions of Einstein's General Relativity - Black holes and the Big Bang cosmology - are real.

Major developments after this video were the x-ray telescopes finding Cygnus X-1 in the 1970s - a black hole in orbit around a star . . . 1983's experimental confirmation of electro-weak unification.  It wasn't till the recent Higgs confirmation and then the detection of gravitational waves that something comparatively big to the Wilson/Penzias experimental discovery/confirmation of the cosmic background radiation.  What could be exciting in the near future?  How about the unification of Quantum Mechanics with General Relativity?

Black holes and the Big Bang cosmology confirm Einstein's General Relativity; they also strongly suggest that quantum mechanics and General Relativity must be combined.  Physicists have recently gotten excited about the the quantum entanglement description of spacetime.  Since, as stated, quantum mechanics and General Relativty must be combined, and quantum entanglement has been confirmed(by Alain Aspects 1980s experiement) and is part of quantum mechanics, then seeing how quantum entanglement relates to General Relativity must bare fruit.

Friday, September 2, 2016

astro picture for the day / quote for the day

Image Credit & Copyright: ESA/Herschel/PACS, SPIRE/Hi-GAL Project
Acknowledgment: G. Li Causi, IAPS/INAF

"Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality." - Hermann Minkowski

Albert Einstein at first said, replying to the quote above, actually, "I can't recognize my own theory, after the mathematicians got their hands on it."  And so the legend that Albert Einstein was no mathematician grew.

Was he strictly a mathematician? No, he wasn't; he mostly just used mathematics already created to get his physics created.  It's known that David Hilbert helped him out on his General Relativity.  How much is unknown, as David Hilbert just gave all credit to Albert.  Fact is though, the mathematics and mathematicians had been leading towards Relativty theory for a long time. Bernard Riemann's work on "Riemann surfaces."  These can be thought of at a certain level as splitting a sphere into two sheets based on the positive/negative roots of a square root.  Then, there was Lorentze's and Poincare's work. Their work was in response to the Micheleson-Morley experiment disproving the existence of the Aether.  A substance that was suppose to carry the light waves through the cosmos.

- Some more mathematics, in relation to Jacob Bronowski's ideas. Jacob Bronowski points out that vague concepts are defined and expanded/generalized by creative analogy. In Einstein's General Relativity, Galileo's and Newton's for that matter, notion of inertia is generalized. Galileo's famous observation that different mass bodies fall at the same rate is explained by General Relativity. The inertial mass is equivalent to the gravitational mass.  Well, they weigh each other out. This is actually kind of analogous to Galileo's contraditons/thought experiment . . . that if you attach two bodies together, the logic says on the one hand, that the two bodies will accelerate faster because you have more mass.  On the other hand, the lighter mass will pull back on the heavier mass. Well, Einsten's equivalence shows that while the cannonball has more gravitational mass, it also has more inertia; so, they cancel out in a vacuum.  In a vacuum, the cannonball and the feather fall at the same rate.

Saturday, August 20, 2016

astro picture for the day/ thanks James Burke

Image Credit: Hubble Legacy Archive, NASA, ESA; Processing & Copyright: Jose Jimenez Priego

It's one thing "to say" that there is no objective view, that all views are 'just different', but when one view says "she's thanking us for burning her/ we don't learn because there is no change(the Buddhist monks at Mt Everest)", and the other says "nothing is sacred including what I say(Carl Sagan quote; essentially what science says). . . . Buddhism supposedly says "believe nothing on hearsay. Do not believe in traditions because they are old, or in anything on the mere authority of myself or any other teacher"; but, as we've seen in this video, Buddhism has no set scripture.

I've noted before about some of his connections.  I pointed out how in the mechanical universe, King George of England was noted as preferring round knobs on top of lightning rods over sharp points is why we have round knobs, and for no other real reason.  And that, some of James Burke's connections are of this type.  Others are as I've described in my generalization of Jacob Bronowski's findings of the nature/origin of mathematical knowledge.  For this, I have to thank James Burke for his great works!

Monday, August 15, 2016

astro picture(s) for the day / the stupidity of humanity

Image(s) credit(s) - ESA/NASA Hubble Space Telescope

The Apollo 1 capsule fire is often brought up when viewing some Apollo/Saturn V, and moon landing videos.  There's not much more significant to be said, other than, an accident happened, and everyone just kept on going because, what else are they going to do but their jobs?

What's really remarkable about the Apollo 1 capsule fire was that it was so stupid!  How does a team of hundreds of thousands of engineers miss such an obvious possibility of a spark causing a fire . . . in a pure oxygen/high atmospheric pressure confined space  . . . get missed?

It's one thing to not question the beliefs that one is conditioned to believe in; but, when something so obviouse as the above case happens . . . this says a lot about humans inability, quite often, to step back and try to see what staring them in the face!

In computer program, one tests the program to see if it runs as they thought it should.  Quite often, it doesn't.  The programmer built based on unquestioned assumptions. The programmer often goes about his/her life acting like they're normal and smart and all.  They're friends pat them on the back in approval of their behaviors.  Few try to write a program or do some kind of mathematics, and so they don't ever get hit in the face; they don't learn that they need to stop themselves in their tracks . . . look around . . . and see what's going on.  Even those who do, are not well rounded enough to see a danger . . . or even a new idea to ponder.

- on a personal note, I met these Chaffee twins/girls in junior high school -way back in like 1989. We were in science class and they were oddly fascinated in my reading of "The Exploding Universe." It's an alright general science book, covering astronomy to particle physics and cosmology.  It even starts from an account of the Greek ideas of five elements - fire, water, earth, air, and quintessence. They thought I was smart.  They're hair was like some red haired afros!  By high school, they learned to change their hair a little bit and look a little sexier. We ran cross-country and track and field together during high school.

I was sitting in the grass, reading some book before either cross-country or track workouts, and it hit me. Chaffee was one of the astronauts who died in the Apollo 1 fire.  I looked right up at them, and they just walked away.  They saw in my eyes that I just hit on something!  The coach was a bit struck by this as well. He read they didn't want to share or talk about it.  He somehow knew as well!  These two Chaffee girls are descendents of Roger Chaffee. They were like, "oh boy, he figured it out!"

They of course never knew him personally. Maybe they felt like they didn't need to brag about such a bad way to go.

Wednesday, August 3, 2016

Latest Gospel of Truth 1.2

Unless you believe life is a static structure, then one has to conclude that life evolves. Mankind has evolved culturally - not just biologically. Other life has shown some kind of technological use - beavers build great dams, birds make nice little nests, spiders make silk webs, and the list can probably go on. But, none of those, including some close primate relatives, has gone through the same cultural evolution, so far, as Mankind.

Our cultural evolution has led to life being able to know the universe.  This is knowledge.  Knowledge is for Mankind about language.  Or, some kind of language.

It's probably not accurate to say that we started out with little knowledge and progressed to ever more.  Although, there is a some of that effect. But, the line of primates that led to us certainly knew lots of things, just like the birds know when how to hunt - and likewise for the big cats and other life.  But, our language knowledge evolved from less well defined ideas to defined enough to be able to predict things about us and the universe. I like Stonehenge and all the other circular structures found in Europe because they illustrate how we can have some kind of well defined knowledge and yet have to express it with not so well defined understandings.

I mean how the stone blocks that are set in place in a precise enough arrangement to mark the equinoxes and rising of stars are themselves not built to precise specifications. 

A picture of Stonehenge,

Stonehenge is also proof of astrotheology, which we'll get to throughout the rest of my Gospel of Truth here. I can't help noting something else about Stonehenge.  Thousands of years before even Stonehenge was Göbekli Tepe, which has much more well defined monuments with great sculpture of animals, all arranged in a poorly defined circular pattern. So, the mathematical knowledge the Göbekli Tepe builders had did not make it to the Stonehenge builders.  Those who built Stonehenge innovated and were inspired on their own.

Whether on purpose or not, when we evolved from poorly defined knowledge to more defined, our well defined knowledge would often be mixed or still have attachments to the poorly defined knowledge of the past.  Stonehenge is again an example. The picture that comes to my mind, as a symbolic example is crystals, which are well defined, growing out of the poorly defined rock . . .

We'll see examples of confusions, of even the Greeks, about confusing mythology for real scientific knowledge.

Mankinds language knowledge started out as actual drawings.  The famous cave paintings . . .

This language is denotative.  There's connotative and denotative.  Denotative is surface level pointing to something. It has no underlying structural understanding of behavior.

Another artform is poetry. Poetry is analogy. It's a step towards more connotative knowledge.

Jacob Bronowski, in his "Science and Human Values" points out that poetry and mathematics share a common feature - analogy. Analogy in poetry is what's called metaphor/simile.  Analogy in mathematics is what's called abstraction. Abstraction is a analogous form between two two different things. The easy quick example is two oranges and a couple of apples share the property of number two. Jacob Bronowski finds ways to show the unity of thought, of human creativity. A connection he doesn't make is that mythology is poetry.
I make this connection, and find that a Sir James Frazer, back in the 1800s pretty much makes this connection as well.  By exploring mythology as magic, Sir James Frazer finds a way of pushing further back into the thought of mankind. 

He identifies two main types of magic - homoeopathic and contagious magic. Homoeopathic is about analogies. Contagious magic is about contact. Mathematicians since at least Pythagoras times understand the analogous nature of numbers.  That there's two oranges and two apples, and both of these have the same/analogous form of the number two. But, magicians would, for instance, make analogous figurines, and whatever they did to it, they thought something would happen to the real thing. If they didn't like someone, they prick it with sticks and burn it and so on.

The Hebrews at least made an advance here and discredit the worship of 'idols.' Still, in the Bible, we have evidence that these idols were considered Gods; and hence, we know that god(s) were made up. There's a cute little story in Genesis 31 about stealing gods. For instance, there's 31:30 - "yet wherefore hast thou stolen my gods?" Jacob, in the next verse, answers Laban that he stole them because he was afraid. He thinks that by taking his gods, he can control Laban.  But, unknown to Jacob, his wife, Rachel, stole them!(Gen 31:32). And in Gen 31:34 - "Now Rachel had taken the images, and put them in the camel's furniture, and sat upon them."

The magic of contagious is where if something comes in contact, then no matter how distant two objects are, whatever happens to one object happens to the other.

These magical principles lead to charms/spells and taboos. Either do these magical things for good(charms, or don't do certain things(taboos). Some taboos noted in the bible, there's Leviticus 21:5 - "They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh."  There's many more examples, of course, of homeopathic taboo/magic, in the Leviticus analogy above(see Tim Callahan's "Secret Origins of the Bible, page 314)

The Old Testament writers tried to ban magic! Exodus 22:18 states, "Do not allow a sorceress to live" and Deut 18:10, "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch." Once again, see Tim Callahan's "Secret Origins of the Bible", pages 314/315 for more.

- self-interpolating, 1Samuel9:9, "for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer." So banning magicians is banning Prophets.  Oops, as usual!
-self-interpolating- “1Samuel 28:3-9,

This passage says Saul got rid of magicians(called necromancers/soothsayers), but then, because he's not as great as David(who oddly seems to hang out with Phillistines a lot), Jehovah is with David instead of Saul. Saul is jealous and is trying to kill David quite often. So, Jehovah doesn't speak to Saul anymore in either dreams/prophets. So, Saul orders his servants to find him a woman necromancer to talk to god!
The reason magic is being banned at the time of the Hebrews is because someone wants to take control of you. In particular, Priests and Kings want to be the conduit from which people believe. They don't want some outside people saying something different.  For instance, Deut chapter 13(the whole chapter), and in particular 13:5, "because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God,".

Banning and violence against questioning are two main properties immaturity and irrationality - Nazi really. Here we have God willing to kill his chosen people because they questioned him - Numbers 21:5, "And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. . . . Numbers 21:6, "And The lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died."

Sir James Frazer notes that the Australian Aborigines know magic, but not Gods. So the evolution of thought must have gone from magic to Gods. At one time, Everything was a god. Leviticus 17:7, "They must no longer offer any of their sacrifices to the goat idols" Here, Goats are gods as well.

The Old Testament is transitioning from many gods to one god. But the writers do a poor job erasing the memory of those many gods. The Old Testament admits to there being many gods in Genesis chapter 1 - 1:26, "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness."

I've already mentioned the Genesis story of Rachel hiding the idols/gods above. In Numbers chapters 22/23, God actually has a conversation with Baal. Numbers 22:9, "And God came unto Balaam, and said, What men are these with thee?"  Not only is God talking to another god here, but this passage reveals that God doesn't know everything. If he knew everything, he wouldn't be asking another god who these people are.

Numbers 23 reveals a major Biblical contradiction - 23:19, "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent".  Jesus Christ is suppose to be god come down to Earth as a man.  But this biblical scripture says this does not happen.  And God cannot die for our sins as well(repent). New Testament authors would midrash Jesus Christ into existence.  They'd point to Old testament scripture and say that's prophecy.  But, here we have prophecy that this is not possible.

When ancient people conquered each other back then, they'd either combine their gods with the new conquered people, or rename the new gods and try to erase them out of history.  Ruth is a daughter of Moabites.  Ruth joins the Hebrews, and says in Ruth 1:16, "thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God:" Renaming previous people's gods as God/Jehovah happens in Hosea 2:16, "It will come about in that day," declares the LORD, "That you will call Me Ishi And will no longer call Me Baali."  Also, God argues in Exodus 6:3 that Moses knew him previously as El Shaddai, "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai--'God Almighty'--but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them."

Another God that the Hebrews are trying to wipe clean from the Earth is Asherah.  Asherah is a Canaanite wife god of Elohim.  Because the Hebrews are taking from the surrounding cultures gods, they mention this female goddess, and because they are trying to make a single male god, they're trying to erase Asherah's from the face of the Earth. Female goddesses appear to have been the dominant religion of the Mediterraenean up to the Bronze/Iron age.

Archaeologists have found what they call Venus figurines, such as this one,

They've found them all over the Mediterranean, and as far away as Siberia.  The 'Venus of Hohle Fels' goes back to 35,000 years ago.

to give some idea of the ubiquity of the Venus figurines, both in time and space, the Malta ruins, built around 3000 B.C.(just a little bit before the Pyramids were made) have a comparatively giant Venus figurine,

  Clearly, early religious worship centered around the female. But, religion seems to have changed certainly by the time of the Bible. The Biblical God is a male god.

Biblical archaeologists have found Asherah in Akkadian(Summarian), Hittite, and Ugaritic.  See the Asherah wiki - The Bible mentions Asherah's many times - for instance, Exodus 34:13, ""But rather, you are to tear down their altars and smash their sacred pillars and cut down their Asherim ".  See also, Deut 7:5/12:3/16:21/ , Judges 3:7/6:25-6/6:28/6:30, 1Kings14:15/ 1Kings14:23, 1Kings15:13, 1Kings16:21, 1Kings18:19, well, there's a bunch more.  Clearly, female worship is being hunted down.

A Ugaretic female god Shapesh got turned into a male god, Shamash. These are Sungods, and the Sungods are being turned into male gods as opposed to female goddesses.

More male bias in the bible is the Adam and Eve story, and Judges 9:54

Eve takes the fall for mankind, for taking on knowledge.  Here knowledge is denounced, and females take the fall for it. Getting a little ahead of the story, in in 1Timothy 2:11-14, "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet . . . for Adam was formed first, then Eve.  And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner." - What we have here is Paul believing woman should be quite and submit to husband, because of midrash.  More on midrash, which is what the majority of the New Testament is . . . not to mention what Jesus Christ is . . . later.

In Judges 9:54, an Abimelech, asks fellow male soldiers to kill him, so "that men say not of me, a woman slew him."

The transitions from female worship male gods, and from magic to god-religions culminated in the Aegean collapse. Nobody knows how the Bronze age cultures collapsed. Before the end of the Aegean collapse, the major civilizations were the Hittites and Egyptians.  The Hittites lived in contemporary Turkey.  Egypt lived in, well, Egypt. There was the Lavant between them.  There was also the Babylonians in Mesopotamia.  Then, there was the city of Troy famously, and Ugarit less famously, and also the Minoans of the Crete island.

In a similar way to the Hebrews mentioning gods, magic, and female goddesses, they make references to the Iron age. Tim Callahan, page 57-58 points out some linguistic evidences that Cain symbolizes metallurgy. Cain in Hebrew is Qayin.  Qayin means metalworker.  And, Quayin also means Kenites.  Kenites are mentioned in Judges 1:16, where Moses is made a relative of Kenites.

Iron was a technology that the Bronze age cultures couldn't match up against.  Iron can go through bronze with comparable ease. So, on the one hand, people back then would want iron-smiths.  On the other hand, iron working was mysterious magic.  They'd want to keep iron workers from ruling them, but they'd want to get the iron-works. This is seen in 1Samuel13:19 - "Now there was no smith found throughout the land of Israel; for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears."  In Greek iron god mythology, Hephaestus had an epithet, "the lame one"(Hephaestus wiki reference,, in Norse mythogy, it's "Wayland the Smith", who is "Later, King Niðhad captured Wayland in his sleep in Nerike and ordered him hamstrung and imprisoned on the island of Sævarstöð. There Wayland was forced to forge items for the king."(Wayland the Smith wiki, So, Saul is likewise separating the metalworkers from the Amalekites to be killed.

Further, Cain has descendents, Tubal-Cain, who are said to work in bronze and iron(Genesis 4:22).

So iron workers appear valuable to the Hebrews.  But, in the Old Testament, all powerfull God can't drive out the Canaanites because they have chariots of Iron!  Joshua 17:16 and 18 - "and all the Canaanites that dwell in the land of the valley have chariots of iron . . . for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong."  Clearly, Iron is dreaded.  In Judges 1:19, the Jews God cannot drive out the Canaanites because they have chariots of Iron!

There was another transition during the Aegean collapse.  Mythology went from Earth goddess to Sun god(s). Stonehenge is proof enough for sunworship. Stonehenge records the equinoxes, and surely, those people worshipped the sun in this way. A recent discovery shows Stonehenge sized down to a small bronze disk.

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Archaeologists have unearthed a "Nebra Sky disk" dated to 1600B.C. It was unearthed in contemporary Germany around 1999A.D. It has the stars, sun, and moon. It also has the Pleiades, two equal gold leafs on either side a boat at the bottom. The two gold leaflets at the edges may measure out degrees geometrically without numbers. The boat is rather interesting as is the  Pleiades representation. The Pleiades and the boat were often used in Egyptian mythology. Many Egyptian temples had sunboats in them, actually. In Egyptian mythology, the sunboats were to take the Pharohs or the Egyptian sungods Ra and Osirus to heaven and hell and back.

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The Egyptians put boats in all their temples as sunboats for the Pharoh to be taken to heaven.

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It's interesting that the sun takes center stage in Egyptian mythology and finds its way to Europe. The English Stonehenge(there's many stonehenges around Ireland as well and throughout Europe actually) is also proof that ancient peoples everywhere worshipped the Sun, and mapped out the seasons. Stonehenge maps out the sun through the twelve months of the year. Mankind whether through cultural contact or the fact that all cultures growing up from ignorance to knowledge of the heavens would naturally mythologize and worship the sun, the moon, and the stars. But, today's cultures seem to be ignorant or often shocked that their latest religions may take from and evolve from those sungod worshipping peoples - the Egyptians and people before them.

 Just to speed through history and hint at things to come. The word Easter comes from Ishtar, lover of Bablonian sungod Tammuz, who was given "Sheppard" and "Lamb of God" symbolism thousands years before "Jesus Christ." Herodotus replaces Osirus in his writings as Dionysus; hence, he considers the two sungods to be the same. The name Dionysus is translated as "God of Nysa"(Herodotus, Histories, 3-97 has Herodotus mentioning Nysa, "The Ethiopians who dwell about sacred Nysa and hold the festivals in honour of Dionysus"), and city in modern Turkey(in ancient times, Bablon). Excavations of Nysa have uncovered temples of the Mithras god. This establishes links between Dionysus and Mithras. And, we've already established link between Dionysus and Osirus. Everyone knows that the Vatican Saint Peters is built on top of an old Mithras temple; can we establish links between all these ancient sungods, Osius, mithras, Dionysus, and . . . Jesus Christ?

Before we get to Jesus Christ, we should mention yet another significant development that came during or after the Aegean collapse - the Phoenician alphabet innovation.

I've shown that the Hebrews clearly took from surrounding peoples as all cultures did back then. One major thing the Hebrews took from the surrounding cultures was the alphabetical style of language started from the Phoenicians(there's some indications the Phoenicians might have originaly come from Minoa Crete). The Phoenicians might have been the sea peoples. The "Sea peoples" are a mystery that some suspect for the Aegean collapse. Whether they destroyed Bronze age civilization by bio-plague weapons or iron is a question still not settled.  Or, whether they were really responsible for it at all.  Maybe they were a consequence of plague from their homeland. We don't know. Out of the social vacuum created by the sea peoples came the Greeks and the Hebrews. Both these cultures picked up on the new alphabetical style language created according to all ancient sources from the Phoenicians. But for the most part, these two cultures evolved in radically different ways. The Greeks created "Euclid's Elements"; the Hebrews created the Torah and associated writings. This doesn't mean the Greeks were totally rational as we'll see.

- self-interpolation- the mathematics of the Hebrews . . . Joshua chapter 4 is about counting the number of people by means of twelve stones.  They just lay down twelve stones, and place a person per tribe next to them. . . . 2Samuel 8:2, David measures his Moabite prisoners by lines drawn on the ground.  He puts the ones he's going to kill lined up on one line, and those who are going to be his slaves on another line . . . numbering seems to be for practical/political purposes.  Although, Solomon uses basic arithmetic to measure out the size of God's tent(1King2:28 and 1Kings7)(god and his ark are to be in a certain place on Earth), numbering people seems to be a no-no. In 2Sam24, God/Jehovah wants David and his worker Joab to count the sinful Israelites.  . . . then, in Job 36:26, we see that God is to be supernatural; to be beyond number - "Behold, God is great, and we know him not;
    the number of his years is unsearchable."

  • Self-interpolating- there’s also the famous mathematics of Pi . . .

1Kings7 is Solomon building a temple for God. In it is the famous mention of the Biblical calculation of Pie. It says . . .

"He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits[o] to measure around it."

The algebraic formula for circumference is c=2(pie)r. One can just as easily say diameter for 2r. Algebraic manipulation produces C/D= (pie). The biblical passage above says circumference equals 30, while diameter equals 10. So, 30/10 = 3. Pie equals 3 according to the Bible. A more mathematical correct value of Pi is 3.14159 . . . off to infinity.

This may seem like nit picking; but, then again, that's why the Bible isn't mathematical, and the say Euclid's Elements is.

- Further, 1Kings 7, right after the Pi passage mentions the 12 again . . . 1Kings 7:25 - "The Sea stood on twelve bulls, three facing north, three facing west, three facing south and three facing east." . . . here we see the twelve is clearly astronomical in the twelve being split into three bulls facing each direction North/South/West/East.”

Related to the last part above about twelve bulls . . . 1 Kings 4:7 - "Solomon had twelve district governors over all Israel, who supplied provisions for the king and the royal household. Each one had to provide supplies for one month in the year."

With these two biblical passages, we know that the number twelve is associated with the astronomical context – in particular, the constellations – especially the 1Kings 4:7 passage. We’ll see original Christian apologists quotes that the twelve followers of Jesus Christ are the twelve constellations below.

We’ve seen that out of the Aegean apocalypse, came the Hebrews and Greeks.  And we’ve seen a little bit that the Hebrews took to mythology a little more to solve their problems, and the Greeks used and developed mathematics(the truth is, they both used mythology and mathematics.  It’s just that the those in charge of the Hebrews used their writing literacy to write out and ban mathematics as we’ll see below, and the Greeks did a lot more mathematics).  I’ve hinted at the start that mathematics and mythology share a common property of analogy.  But, mathematics becomes scientific, while mythology does not. Kurt Godel published some incompleteness/inconsistency theorems in 1931. Without getting into the technicals here, his theorems show that a finite set of axioms(kind of like beginning laws that one takes as true) cannot prove an infinity of truths.  If they can, they are inconsistent.  Mythology is inconsistent statements that can prove everything(an infinity). Mathematics is consistent statements that can go on proving for ever and ever, but never really reach the end.  I’ll get back to this later on with the Jesus Christ section.

Archaeologists discovered a Merneptah Stele around 1896. It is the first historical mention of Israelites. So, we know they had to be around before then. But there, we run into problems. In fact, the archaeological problems become biblical problems because the Judahites writing in 600B.C. timeframe gave clues of a great exodus from Egypt; and that according to them was where Israelites came from. The archaeology presents problems for the Judahite account because back then, greater than 1200 B.C, the Egyptians were at the height of their powers. This was the time the Egyptians built Karnak and Abu Simbel. Archaeologists find that during this great building time, they had built great fortress walls indicating the boundaries of their country. There, they had guards stationed, patrolling up and down these barriers. They've found tablets recording everything and everybody that went in and out of these gates. And well, there's no mention of a great exodus, of a hundred thousand slaves of anybody Jew or otherwise happening sometime before 1200B.C. There was the Hyksos around 1500 when some Canaanites actually conquered Egypt for a period. The Egyptians eventually drove them out and into the Levant/Canaan/Israel. One could argue that this was what the Judahites of ~600B.C. meant.

The Israelites mentioned by the Merneptah Stele grew into a rather sophisticated and rich nation. Understand that there was a fertile lower ground northern land where the Israel state was, and a higher land southern land where Judahites lived. There was certainly some connection between the two, as there probably was between the Canaanites and the Israelites. But, there was distinctions to be made. There's great marble column ruins build by the Omrides(whom the later Judahites demonized in their writings). Point is the northern Israelites were rich and sophisticated enough to create great cities that can be seen today. The southern highlands were dry and barelly habitable. Back in these ancient times, slave labor was like gold and oil is today. Nation-States fight over them. Nation-States went to war to take the skilled slave labor of other countries to help build their great temples. This is essentially what happened to the northern Israelites. These were moderate willing to trade with one another surrounding cultures and even take in each other gods. The Assyrians conquered and absorbed the northern state of Israel around 740B.C. To stress that the Israelites and the Judahites were a bit more distinct than most would think, there's 2kings14:9, the Israelite king calls the Judahite king a thistle who goes to Lebanon for help because they can't take care of themselves. Here we also see that the Israelites were generaly strong and rich, while the Judahites were weak and poor. When the Assyrians came to conquer the Israelites for their skilled labor, they didn't lift a finger to conquer the southern highlands. They didn't have any slave labor worth picking up.  When the Assyrians did come to exhile the Judahites, they did so for their slave labor . . . “2 Kings 24:14 – “He carried away all Jerusalem, and all the princes, and all the might men of valor, ten thousand captives, and all the craftsmen and the smiths; none remained, except the poorest people of the land.”

The biblical literature was clearly written by the Judahites. In Genesis 49:8-10, it is said that Judah is to be the center of the world really; it says the skeptre shall never depart Judah. Why would anywhere in the universe be the center of the universe? The fact that the Bible essentially makes Judah of all places the center of the universe is a dead giveaway that the Torah and associated writings were written in Judah around the time of King Josiah around 640 to 600 B.C. Stronger evidence is that Abraham calls himself a Chaldean(Genesis 11:28 - well, Abraham says his father Terah is Chaldean Babylonian). The Chaldean Babylonians only came into power around 700 B.C.  In fact In 2Kings 22:8-23:24, High Priest Hilkiah miraculously finds the torah in his back room(kind of convenient, ha!?). Getting back to the whole astrotheology theme. What astrotheology can be found in the Old Testament
The fact that the six days of creation of the book of Genesis follows closely the Epic of Gilgamesh and the flood story is also clearly a redo of that more ancient story is well known and well established. But, I've found that the Egyptian influence on the Torah is perhaps underrated. Actualy this part is farely well known also. It seems that the Hymn to Akhenaten is reproduced in the Psalm 104. The Hymn to Akhenaten is about sunworshipping. Well, I've found that this Hymn to Akhenaten is more integrated in the Torah(the first five books of the Old Testament) than just this little curiosity.

Some of the influences of the religion of Akhenaton are how Yahweh created the languages, the seasons, and how Yahweh begat King Soloman. See Andrew Benson's "The Origins of Christianity and the Bible" for the Hymn of Aton equivalents.

 Akhenaton Aton created the seasons, just as in Genesis 1:14 -  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. God creating day/night for seasons, days, and years makes sense, but what about these signs?  What's not obvious here is that the Biblical writers could be referring to astrology here. It's a first clue that the heavens were personified as gods.

D.M. Murdock gives much evidence that Christianity is Egyptian Osirus/Horus religion reexpressed.  For my purposes here, I'd like to point out the trinity as coming from Egyptian religion long before Christianity . . .

The Leiden Hymn to Amun,

- All Gods are three,
 Amun, Re, Ptah they have no equal.
 His name is hidden as Amun,
 He is Re in the face,
 and his body is Ptah.

Josephus(who we'll see more of later) mentions that the twelve tribes of Israel are just the twelve constellations of the zodiac. Josephus is refereing to Genesis 49. Reference is Josephus "Antiquities of the Jews" book 3 chapter 7 section 7(practically the very last paragraph of chapter 7 as well).

-Rueben = aquarius because of "the beginning of my strength . . . unstable as water."

-Simen and Levi = Gemini because of the twins of Gemini

-Judah = Leo beause of the "lions welp"

-Zebulun = libra because of "who shall be far an haven of ships; or the ship sign, ark"

-Issachar = Taurus because of "strong ass, workhorse"

-Dan = Scorpio because it is between sagitarrious and capricornious

-Gad = Pisces because Gad is the reversal of dag, a fish god

-Asher = Virgo because of "rich food or fat bread"

-Naphtali = Capricornus because he's a "hind let loose, the goat

-Joseph = Safittarious because he was fiercely attacked by archers

-Benjamoin = Aries becuase "the ravenous wolf who divides the spoils"

Philo of Alexandria, another character we'll meet again later, also says the twelve tribes of Israel are the twelve constellations.

Biblical proof that the God(s) are astrotheological in nature . . . In Dueteronomy 4:19, we have "the sun, the moon, and the stars and all the hosts of heaven." This is much quoted; but, reading around it, we find King Josiah actually telling the Jews to stop worshipping the sun and stars(and Asherahs) Going back in time, we have Amos one of the very earliest Israelite prophets/writers. In Amos 5:8 - Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name" Here we see that the God(s) are just the sun, the moon, the stars, and the constellations! Oh yes, the Pleides shows up again in Hebrew mythology just like in Egyptian and the Nebra sky disk! Getting back to Genesis 1:14, we have it that the stars are created for astrological purposes(also see Psalm 104:19 - "He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down."). Astrology is astronomy for the purpose of healing the sick; it's also often taken in by the Kings and Priests to tax the population and 'rule by divine rite.' Here we're beginning to see that the Old Testament is a astrology text. The constellations and the Pleides turn out to be gods again in Job 9:9. Also, in Job 38:31-33 we see God as controlling the constellations. Why would god control some artificial pattern(the constellations)? That's right, it's humans making up gods and making them for astrological purposes to rule by divine right. Isaiah 47:13 explicitly mentions astrology, 47:13 - Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Clearly, God(s) are the sun, moon, and stars, and astrology. Can Jesus Christ also be astrotheological?

More on Orion. In Genesis chapter 6, right before the flood story is mention of Giants. A literal translation of Giants is Nephilim. Nephilim in Arabic is Orion! The Giants that come down, impregnate humans to make them live longer are just the constellations!

And about that flood story . . . the flood story is the last tablet of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Close to the beginning is "But what shall answer the city, the populace, and the elders?. A few pages later, "How could I say evil things in the assembly of the gods. ordering a catastrophe to destroy my people!" See, the flood story of the Bible is just a rehash of the Epic of Gilgamesh(Babylonian, before the Hebrews) flood story. In the Jewish version, the flood story is used to wipe out everyone who doesn't believe the god of the only righteous Jew - Noah.  But, in the original flood story, the ethics of wiping out "everyone else who is not us" is called into question; surely not everyone of those other cultures is a bad person, right?

Whether King Josiah innovated the single god concept, or the male theologans, the idea of one god fit the dictator King idea to a tee. Rule by divine right - goes from God, to King, to everyone else to serve this King. Everyone elses gods had to go.  And this is what we have going on in the Old Testament.  Lots of the evidences have already been pointed out.  More evidences will be pointed out below.

The Judahites took a lot more from the surrounding cultures than just astrology(hence proof the astrotheological nature and origin of any cultures gods). For instance, there's the famous ten commandments Deut chapter 5 for instance. These have always been known as analogous to Code of Hammerabi from the Babylonians and the Egyptian book of the dead chapter 125. What I'd like to note about the ten commandments is that they say things like never take the lords name in vain, and don't stop worshipping me. Talk about a Jealous god. This is the language of every dictator and gangster in history! In fact, I'd go so far as to equate religion, with cults, and cults with gangsters. Nowhere in the bible old or new testament will you find, "question everything including what I say." It's always, believe in everything I say or else I'll kill you and your mother. Yet another transition from the Bronze age to the Iron age, reflected in the faith ethics of the Bible is 1Samuel-15:22 - "behold, obedience is better than sacrifice." Faith is a convenient tool for gangsters and dictators/kings. In fact, in 1Samuel chapter 8:10-22, Samuel offers democracy, but the people and ultimately God shouts him down.

One could have lots more fun with scripture about the nature of gods back then. In Exodus, we find that mana from heaven is just hallucinogenic mushrooms, "Exodus 16:14 . . . it came by night after dew had settled in the soil . . . and a little round thing appeared". God hardens the heart of the Egyptian Pharaoh so he can make a fool of him; he hardens lots of hearts so that some Jews can run them through. God hardens hearts in Exodus 4:2-1, 7:4-5, Deut 2:30; in this one, God hardens some tribeman's heart so that Moses has to strike him down. He does it again at Joshua 11:20.

I've had plenty of fun blasting the Hebrew mythologizing for now. I'd like to stress Deut chapter 4 again. Here we have King Josiah ordering his fellow jews from patterning their gods after the stars. Hence, the Jews were trying to learn the universe. Point is that the anti-science Jewish religion is due to some king with a literary weapon(literacy and the new Phoenician alphabetical language) making a religion to rule by divine right. It's not all the Jews. The word all is the problem. Much of the human problems has been people going to war because some subset of a given culture stirs up trouble. Then, the other culture just decides all of the other culture must be destroyed. Part of Humanities problem is refusing to question their own beliefs. The other problem is gross generalizations poor questioning of assumptions and drawing idealizations to far. I've seen some modern Israelites(really Jews; the Israel state and people were taken in by the Assyrians; modern day Iraqis and Iranians!) who understand this religious problem of "we're the chosen ones; all else get to go to hell". But, they go back and forth, so I also don't mean to let modern Jews off the hook either. The fact that the Judahites made a 'chosen ones' religion(the old testament) is what led to further Jewish problems of being Exiled, and then the Messianic frenzy that led to the Romans destroying the Jews temple(really  Herodian) around 66 and 125 A.D. But this is all getting ahead of the story. Mankinds struggle between rational mathematical science and poetic mythology continued with the Greeks.

 -self-interpolation, The switch-over from female goddess Venus figurines to male sungods is reflected in a Plato passage, "

Symposium 190, has Plato saying before there were two humans(male/female), there were three.  He says males came from the sun/ females from the Earth, and then there was the moon god.  The sun/earth gods were being unruly; so, Zues had to do something. He couldn't destroy them and make them extinct, otherwise, he's get no sacrifices/gifts.  So, he had to limit them.  He made the sun/earth gods with two legs and invented man/woman."

Plato's works also prove astrotheology,

Apology 26d asks if Socrates doesn't believe if the sun/moon are gods; hence, others, if not Plato did.

Laws, chapter 7-821a-d ,"we Greeks do the great gods - Sun and Moon - an injustice, if we don't understand their motions(wanderers - Planets)

Laws, chapter 12-950d says "the sun and other gods

Plato also proves that people derive gods existence from ignorance of the workings of nature - Epinomis 983a mentions ignorance of how something so big as the sun equals God's existence

The Greeks were coming out of their dark ages around the time the Jews were being exiled to Babylon again. Thales, Pythagoras first went to Egypt and Babylon to learn all the knowledge they could. They took everything, the mathematics and the mythology. At least they took the mathematics. But, they also took the mythology. The Greeks like the Hebrews grew up on the Phoenician alphabetical style language. They used the same symbols they used for their natural language for their representation of numbers. They'd then use the numbers for their natural language in their mixing of mathematics and Egyptian/Babylonian mythology. This is called gematria and later with the mixing of Greek or Hellenistic religion with Jewish old testament 'midrashing.' Midrashing is a kind of linguistic analogy. The point is that the Plato gematria would mix with the midrashing of the old testament to make the New testament. For instance, the logos, or the word of God that Jesus Christ is called in the Gospel of John goes back to Plato.

Two remarkable quotes in relation to kings ruling by divine right and where the Pythagoreans got their religion from. "Diodorus of Sicily says the Pythagoreans got their religious ideas from the Egyptians(book one, 98).

Diodorus of Sicily is interesting here because he’s b.c. time and notes that hell is made up to keep people inline(book 1.2.2 -”For if it be true that the myths which are related about Hades, in spite of the fact that their subject-matter is fictitious, contribute greatly to fostering piety and justice among men,”). Santa Clause is one mythology for keeping kids in line; religion is politicized mythology for dictator/Kings to keep his ruled people in line and believing in him(usually a Him and not a Her).

Getting back to Plato. The middle 1900s were a great time for biblical archaeology. They found the dead sea scrolls(1946) and the Nag Hammadi library(1945). The Nag Hammadi library is a collection of Gnostic gospels and epistles. The suggetion is that after Emperor Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire, they went on a book burning crusade. Some Gnostics apparently got smart and stuck their scrolls in jars and ditched them in the Egyptian sands. Amongs the catch was found . . . Plato's Republic! What in the world was Plato's Republic doing amongst Gnostic christian scrolls? Midrashing. They were midrashing the old testament to fit Platonic philsophy - the dominant philosophy in various forms since Hellenistic times(Alexander the Great spreading Greek culture is called "Hellenism"). We're getting ahead of the story.

 Evidences for Platonism and Plato's Republic in the New Testament . . .

- "Plato’s hell is Tartarus(Plato, Phaedo 113e). Curiously, the writer of 2Peter says tartarus at 2:4.

-“keeping the soul unspotted”(Plato Republic Book 10, 621B-C also found in Epistle of James 1:27.

-”believe and you will be saved”(Plato Republic, book 10, 621B-C also found in Luke 8:12)

-”Lake of fire”(Plato, Phaedo, 113A also found in Revelation 20:10)

-”all things work together for the best”(Plato Republic Book 10, 613A and Romans 8:28

One last Plato/New testament tidbit is most shocking of all!

- "the just man will have to endure the lash, the rack, chains, the branding-iron in his eyes, and finally, after every extremity of suffering, he will be crucified" (Plato Republic II. 361D-362A)

I'd like to stress Plato's "believe and you will be saved" a bit more. In 1931, Kurt Godel became one of the great logicians(deductive logic) by publishing his incompleteness/inconsistency proofs. In Euclid's "Elements", the deductive process is started by means of assuming certain self-evident statements. Euclid has ten. Every ruler from Hammerabi to King Josiah has put up a list of fundamental rules to live by; in the old testament, these are the ten commandments. I've already covered this a bit. My point is that Kurt Godel proves that a finite set of axioms cannot prove an infinity of truths. Of if they can, they must be inconsistent. Euclid's axioms are consistent; the ten commandments and most supernatural religious commandments are made to be inconsistent - such as "believe and you will be saved." Well, this statement gets generalized to "believe and you will believe" through the ages. Another vague twisty statement to shut up further questioning and thought is Exodus 3:14 where Moses asks God for his name, and God says "I am that I am." God is a vague word. It is an inconsistent statement that can prove everything without explaining anything. God is the algebraic X standing for "I don't know", and "don't bother me with questions I can't answer" , and "I don't want to know." There's some more curious Plato Republic quotes that relates to mythology versus mathematical science.

A Socrates passage through Plato is Republic, Book 2, 380A-B. "Socrates through Plato apparently argued that the god passages in Homer sound suspiciously made up!(Plato Republic, Book 2, 377D-E, 378A.) Socrates then further argued that to make the passages legit, one should allegorize." What we have here is questions one whether to historicize or allegorize the mythological ideas of religion. Their fighting on the reality of the poetry/mythology process. Both mythology and mathematics are analogies; one is consistent and constructive, the other is not. The Greeks from Socrates to Plato are getting confused on this issue!

I've found a curious reference to Eratosthenes writing some gospel out of the zodiacal constellations. Eratosthenes was writing around 200B.C. He's more famous for having the logical insight to calculate the circumference of the earth using vertical sticks. In Thomas Heath's "History of Greek Mathematics:Vol 2" about Eratosthenes, Mr Heath notes in passing that Eratosthenes wrote some story about the twelve constellations of the zodiac. I've tried to look around. All I can find is commentary that others have seen this. They further note that Eratosthenes argued that one should not confuse the such myth making for real science. That these mythological stories should be used only for entertainment purposes. Apparently, the vast majority turned a deaf ear.

The proof of the personification of the twelve Zodiacal constellations has been found much further than Eratosthenes. In Herodotuses Histories, book 2, he relates, "The Egyptians, they said, were the first to discover the solar year, and to portion out its course into twelve parts . . . The Egyptians, they went on to affirm, first brought into use the names of the twelve gods, which the Greeks adopted from them". 

Twelve seems to be a magic number.  We've seen the Hebrews say the twelve tribes of Israel are the twelve constellations, and now, we have it from Herodotus that the Egyptians personified the twelve constellations. Where else do we see this twelve constellations personification(another principle of poetry)?

Before we answer that question, the astrotheologists suggest a further significance of the twelve constellations. Today, we know, after Isaac Newton, that the equinoxes precess(and Jesus Christ is suppose to be born and die on the winter Equinox . . . or is that the spring equinox of Easter?  Or, how about both?  I guess both!). The astrotheologans have thought that, in mythology, there's a Passover from one age to another. The Earth is tilted, and the pole axis points to a different star.  But, what they are talking about it is the sun rising in a given constellation, and that as the Earth's pole drifts around every 26,000 years, the constellation the sun rises changes. So, every 2,166 years, the sun rises in a new constellation. The current constellation is Pisces(fish).  The previous constellation was Aries(ram), and the one before that was Tauras(the bull). Any of this ring a bell? Jesus is often associated with two fish.  He's also associated with a ram.  But, then again, he's associated with everything - the alpha and the omega. 

The scriptural evidences for these ages is vague in my opinion.  But, the art is clear. There's the famous Minoan bull,

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The scriptural evidences is Exodus 12, which has some things to note. The Passover is the Hebrew god passing over the evil Egyptians and eliminating them from the face of the Earth.  Exodus 12:12 "On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt." . . . further . . . "Go at once and select the animals for your families and slaughter the Passover lamb"(Exodus 12:21; really, the beginning of the chapter to the end is about making a lamb/ram the new Passover animal) . . . and further Exodus 12:27 - "It is the Passover sacrifice to the Lord, who passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt and spared our homes when he struck down the Egyptians."

There's Exodus 32, which talks about Moses and God damning the fellow Hebrews who make a golden calf/Bull. But, it's not clear this has anything to do with the Passover.

The Gospels are a lot more about the ages and the Passover.  But even then, it's rather vague. They mention ages many times - Matt 28:20, "And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” - I'll use Hebrews because it's pre-Gospel; Hebrews 6:5, "powers of the coming age", and Hebrews 9, "But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages." Hebrews 9 seems to me to reveal a lot.  It mentions both lamb and bulls sacrifice - well, maybe.

- self-interpolation here, "Hebrews chapter 9 - In 9:12, "He did not enter by means of the blood of goats(rams) and calves(bulls)" . . . and then, a bit more literally in the scripture itself, 9:13 - "The blood of goats and bulls"."  I put this here, because Exodus isn't explicit about the Passover having anything to do with the precession of the equinoxes - in particular, with the aries(ram), and Taurus(bull) constellations.  Here, in Hebrews epistle(literature more from the James the Just/Essenes camp than Paul), we have Passover pretty clearly having something to do with the switching from one age to another, and lambs(well goats), and bulls(well, Calves).

It's known with certainty, that a Greek Hipparchus, around 190-120 B.C. gave the first mathematical account of precession of the Equinoxes. That doesn't mean people before this mathematical precision couldn't have caught a glimpse of it.  And this would have filtered down to those with a mythologizing mind.

 Revelations 12:1 "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:" - the woman constellation is Virgo.  Some suggest this passage shows the equinox is at the Virgo constellation.  If so, this suggests that the precession of the equinoxes could have been known before Hipparchus's mathematical derivations. Because, in Philo, he says the spring equinox occurred in Aries . . ."“And the sun, the ruler of the day, making two equinoxes every year, both in spring and autumn. The spring equinox in the constellation of Aries, " - Philo, "on the creation"(chapter heading), XXXIV-116.  This Philo passage can only be referring to the time of Moses.

So, Hebrews chapter 9 establishes aries/Taurus as ages, and now we've established with the revelations/Philo quotes that they must have detected the precession of the equinoxes.  We know that Jesus Christ is associated with fish, or, the Pisces constellation. Moses is the made up character to Harold the Passover from the age of Taurus to Aries; Jesus Christ is the sungod to Harold the passage from the age of Aries to the Pisces age.

One might not think of Moses as a sungod, but in Exodus 34:29-35, we see that his face is radiant . . . "When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tablets of the covenant law in his hands, he was not aware that his face was radiant because he had spoken with the Lord", "When Moses finished speaking to them, he put a veil over his face.", "they saw that his face was radiant. Then Moses would put the veil back over his face until he went in to speak with the Lord." . . . so, Moses is a sungod(there's much more evidence of this; check out D.M. Murdock's "Did Moses Exist"), and as we've proven above, he harolds the Passover from the age of Taurus to the age of Aries.

Further evidence of the ubiquity of the rams symbology, anyways is Alexander the Great, who has a coin of him with rams horns,

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Alexander the Great, of course, conquered "the known world" of the Mediterranean.  He died young, and his empire was divided into four - Ptolemaic Alexandria, Seleucid Mesopotamia, Attalid Anatolia, and Antigonid  Macedon. Our concern is Ptolemaic Alexandria.  Ptolemy 1, the very first Ptolemy founded the cult of Serapsis - a combining of Osiris and Apis.  Apis is a bull god. I mention this as more evidence of bulls. Later, Hadrian considered knew Christians and Serapsis worshippers,

"From Hadrian Augustus to Servianus the consul, greeting. The land of Egypt, the praises of which you have been recounting to me, my dear Servianus, I have found to be wholly light-minded, unstable, and blown about by every breath of rumour. There those who worship Serapis are, in fact, Christians, and those who call themselves bishops of Christ are, in fact, devotees of Serapis. There is no chief of the Jewish synagogue, no Samaritan, no Christian presbyter, who is not an astrologer, a soothsayer, or an anointer. Even the Patriarch himself, when he comes to Egypt, is forced by some to worship Serapis, by others to worship Christ."

The whole Serapsis mythology shows that Kings and Rulers made up mythologies by combining gods to appease the population.  And also note that this passage says all these religions are astrologers - hence astrotheology.

 Here's a couple of B.C. time passages of the coming transition to a new age . . .

"The Providence which rules over all has filled this man with such gifts for the salvation of the world as designated him as savior for us and for the coming generations; of wars he will make an end, and establish all things worthily. By his appearing are the hopes of our forefathers fulfilled; not only has he surpassed the good deeds of earlier times, but it is impossible that one greater than he can ever appear. The birthday of God has brought to the world glad tidings that are bound up in him. From his birthday a new era begins."

Now for the Virgil passage from his "Eclogue 4",

"Come are those last days that the Sybil sang: The ages' might march begins anew. Now comes the virgin, Saturn reigns again: now from high heaven descends a wondrous race. Thou on the newborn babe-who first shall end . . . That age of iron, bid a golden dawn . . . Upon the broud world-chaste Lucina, smile: Now thy Apollo reigns."

Going back further in time, Malachi 4.2 “But for you who fear My name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings; . . . Malachi is the last Jewish prophet/writer before the New Testament.  He's actually writing around 400 B.C. But, it's clear that the spirit if you will that is to come from God, who will heal with the rays of the sun is the sun.  The Sun of righteousness is spelled Sun.  That's how they spell it; so, the son of God here, is the sun of god.  Reading around the passage, Malachi is suggesting this sun of righteousness will come to herald a new age.  It's a sungod who will Harold this new age. - self-interpolating/editing here - at the end of Clement of Alexandria's EXHORTATION TO THE HEATHEN, he actually uses the Malachi quote above CHAP. XI.--HOW GREAT ARE THE BENEFITS CONFERRED ON MAN THROUGH THE ADVENT OF . . .

"For "the Sun of Righteousness," who drives His chariot over all, pervades equally all humanity, like "His Father, who makes His sun to rise on all men," Clearly, for Clement of Alexandria, the son of god, is the SUN of god.

There's been discovered a "Revelation of Gabriel" tablet that speaks of a Simon who was resurrected after three days. The truth is there were many people around the first century B.C. waiting for the end of the world.

Here's a picture of the Revelation of Gabriel tablet,

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So clearly, Jewish culture picked up on being messianic.

The Malachi book doesn't call this sun of god Jesus Christ. But, more proof that Jesus Christ is a sungod has been found. . .

 Clement's(of Alexandria)Excerpta ex Theodotus, 25.2

"He(Valentinus) says the Apostles were substituted for the twelve signs of the Zodiac, for, as birth is directed by them, so is rebirth by the Apostles."

and . . .

Clementine homoliee, 2:23, " and as the Lord had twelve apostles, bearing the number of the twelve months of the sun,"

The whole precession of the equinoxes mythologized may have been a reason for the force of converting so many people to these religious ideas.  Another is midrashing.

A main guy, perhaps the main guy, to start midrashing the old testament and combine with Greek philosophy is Philo, who lived before, during and after the supposed life of Jesus Christ; but, he never mentions a Jesus Christ in his works! Philo is very into Plato's 'logos'. He has even more interesting history that perhaps evolves into more significance for the beginnings of Christianity. Philo was ridiculously rich. He controlled the trade from the city of Alexandria down to India. He was essentially the guy in charge of the silk road! That should give you some idea of how rich this guy was. The guy could practically pay people to believe in whatever he wanted the ignorant masses to believe. I don't know if he used his money quite like that; but, Philo happened to have a Nephew - a Tiberius Alexander.

Tiberius Alexander was second in command with Titus who was second in command to his Roman Emperor father Vespasian. Tiberius Alexander hated a James the Just. He was said to have gone from pure Judaism to some radical religion. Tiberius Alexander along with Titus destroyed Jerusalem around 66 A.D. Also, Tiberius Alexander used his uncles money to pay Vespasians way into the Emperor seat of the Roman empire.

Another nephew of Philo was a Marcus Alexander, who became husband to a Berenice, a Herodian(half Jewish princess). Berenice makes some appearances in the New Testament(Acts 25:23). Just one of the curious appearances of Herodians in the New Testament. There's another curious character in the destruction of Jerusalem around 66 A.D. - Flavius Josephus.

Josephus was a Jew. Flavius is an official imperial roman name. How does a jew get an offiicial imperial name? Josephus was a Jewish general fighting the romans. According to his testamony, he decided to turn roman. One day, the Roman legions were coming, him and some of his fellow officers remaining hid in a cave. They drew straws to see who was going to cut the others throats. Fortunatelly for Josephus anyways, he got the right straw. He slit their throats and surrendered to the Roman emperor Titus. Titus was Roman emperor Vespasian's son and second in command at the time. Josephus apparently told Titus and Vespasian about the Jewish prophesy in Numbers 24 that a messiah will save them and destroy their enemies. Josephus became the Roman's spokesperson to try to get the messianic Jews to not be messianic and pay their taxes like every other culture the Romans had conquered and absorbed. Josephus also told them everything about the Jews. Why did he do this?

Apparently, Flavius Josephus felt that the messianic strain of Jews brought the Roman legions down on the Jews; so, the messianic strain had to be taken out. But, could Josephus have been more than even that? Could he have acted as a spy? Getting a little ahead of the story, Robert Eisenman in his "James Brother of Jesus" shows analogies between the works of Josephus and the Pauline epistles and much other literature, some clementine recognitions and much else besides. What he decodes out it all is that whether there was a Jesus Christ or not, the Jesus Christ of the Gospels is just a hellenistic sungod overwright for a "James the Just." In the Gospel of Mark, James is the less in chapter 15.

I for one find it weird that Josephus knows so much of the happenings between Paul and James the Just. One of the things Eisenman decodes is that Paul killed James the Just. This is just me; but, with Josephus's photographic memory(as described by Mr Eisenman - see his James the Just, which goes through the literature of the period - the dead sea scrolls,), of the events, I've often suspected that Josephus is Paul! I've found one almost undeniable correspondence between the life story of Josephus and Paul,

"Josephus: Shipwrecked on voyage to Rome

"But when I was in the twenty-sixth year of my age, it happened that I took a voyage to Rome ... At the time when Felix was procurator of Judea there were certain priests of my acquaintance ... whom on a small and trifling occasion he had put into bonds, and sent to Rome to plead their cause before Caesar ...

Accordingly I came to Rome, though it were through a great number of hazards by sea; for as ourship was drowned in the Adriatic Sea, we that were in it, being about six hundred in number, swam for our lives all the night; when, upon the first appearance of the day, and upon our sight of a ship of Cyrene, I and some others, eighty in all, by God's providence, prevented the rest, and were taken up into the other ship.

And when I had thus escaped, and was come to Dieearchia, which the Italians call Puteoli."

- Josephus, Life,3

St Paul: "Shipwrecked on voyage to Rome"

"Felix, willing to show the Jews a pleasure, left Paul bound." - Acts 24.27.
"They talked between themselves, saying, This man doeth nothing worthy of death or of bonds. - Acts 26.31.

"It was determined that we should sail into Italy ... And entering into a ship of Adramyttium ... we came to Myra ... And there the centurion found a ship of Alexandria sailing into Italy ... they sailed close by Crete. But not long after there arose against it a tempestuous wind ... no small tempest lay on us ... But when the fourteenth night was come, as we were driven up and down in Adria ... And falling into a place where two seas met, they ran the ship aground; and the forepart stuck fast, and remained unmovable, but the hinder part was broken with the violence of the waves.

The centurion ... commanded that they which could swim should cast themselves first into the sea, and get to land. And the rest, some on boards, and some on broken pieces of the ship. And so it came to pass, that they escaped all safe to land. And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria ...

And landing at Syracuse ... and came to Rhegium: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came the next day to Puteoli."

 More curiuos things between Josephus and the New Testament Pauline epistles is a Epiphroditus, a roman emperor secretary. This roman secretary makes an appearence in the New Testament, Philippians 2:25 where Paul says Epiphroditus is an apostle for christianity. Epiphroditus funded the works of Josephus. There's more curious things about this friend of Josephus. Mr Eisenman's "The New Testament Code", shows some remarkable linguistic shorthands for various people in the Josephus circle; that of Timothy for Titus, a Silas as equivalent linguistic form shorthand for a Silvanus(yes, the silas of the Da Vinci Code), a Erastus could correspond to Epaphroditus. References would be acts 19:22, 2Timothy4:20, Romans 16:23. So, all these friends of Josephus appear in this linguistic shorthand except! Josephus! Where does Josephus go in the New Testament? I'd say Paul. Josephus is overwritten as Paul just like James the Just is by Jesus Christ.

Titus(whom I've already mentioned was the son, and second emperor next to Vespasian, and whom Josephus said, at the end of his Jewish war was the coming messiah to save the Jews . . .)(who has an epistle named after him in the New Testament) is also mentioned as being with Paul in Galatians 2.3 "But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:" - Titus is also mentioned in Galatians 2.1, 1 Corinthians 16:10-11(where Paul is commanding soon to be Roman Emperor Titus around!  Who could do that?  Other than Josephus(before Titus becomes Roman Emperor for a little while), 2Corinthians 2:13, where Paul is grieving because Titus is not with him at all times, 2Corinthians 7:7 and 7:13, 1 Corinthians 4:17, Acts 19:22.
More good stuff from Galatians is that of Paul acknowledging that James the Just is in charge of the church - Galatians 2.9 "And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars"

 Another curious person Paul is hanging out with is an Agrippa.  He has to be hanging out with Agrippa II, because that's who's there during the time of Paul. Acts 26:28 "Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

Agrippa II was good friends with Josephus, and he had three sisters, Mariamne, Drusilla, and Berenice, all make appearances with Paul in the Pauline epistles, as mentioned already.
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 Here's the Triumphal arch of Titus; it stands for Vespasian/Titus's destruction of Jerusalem; yet, there's not mention of a Jesus Christ.
People often like to point to Josephus as historical testimony that Jesus Christ was real.  There's a Josephus passage, called the Testimonium Flavianum - Jewish Antiquities, 18.3.3.

One of the main problems has been no one before Eusebius(Emperor Constantine's right hand man), ever mentions this passage.

Origen, a church father of Alexandria, a hundred years before, analyses and uses Josephus as much as possible. But, Origen notes that Josephus doesn't mention any Jesus Christ,

"I would like to say to Celsus, who represents the Jew as accepting somehow John as a Baptist, who baptized Jesus, that the existence of John the Baptist, baptizing for the remission of sins, is related by one who lived no great length of time after John and Jesus. For in the 18th book of his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus bears witness to John as having been a Baptist, and as promising purification to those who underwent the rite. Now this writer, although not believing in Jesus as the Christ, in seeking after the cause of the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple, whereas he ought to have said that the conspiracy against Jesus was the cause of these calamities befalling the people, since they put to death Christ, who was a prophet, says nevertheless— being, although against his will, not far from the truth— that these disasters happened to the Jews as a punishment for the death of James the Just, who was a brother of Jesus (called Christ),— the Jews having put him to death, although he was a man most distinguished for his justice. Paul, a genuine disciple of Jesus, says that he regarded this James as a brother of the Lord, not so much on account of their relationship by blood, or of their being brought up together, as because of his virtue and doctrine. If, then, he says that it was on account of James that the desolation of Jerusalem was made to overtake the Jews, how should it not be more in accordance with reason to say that it happened on account (of the death) of Jesus Christ, of whose divinity so many Churches are witnesses, composed of those who have been convened from a flood of sins, and who have joined themselves to the Creator, and who refer all their actions to His good pleasure." Chapter 47 of Origen's Contra Celsus

This Origen passage says a lot.  It shows the Josephus "Testimonium Flavianum" is a forgery, and then it notes that James the Just is the reason for the Jerusalem Temple's destruction(which was built by Herod the Great, by the way).  It also says that James the Just is not a blood brother of Jesus Christ, but a 'club member brother' of the Jesus Christ club. As Robert Eisenman, shows through his thousand page volume - James brother of Jesus, James the Just is over-written/replaced by Jesus Christ, which is just a sungod.

-self interpolating- more brother of Jesus Christ doesn’t mean “blood brother”, but “being part of the gang/club/cult” brother . . . “1Corinthians 9:5 "as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas".  Here we see the twelve apostles of Jesus Christ being called the lords brothers.  . . . further . . . “Hebrews 2:11, "Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters."

So, the followers of Jesus Christ are the brothers/sisters of the Jesus Christ cult/club.  Further down, we’ll see that James the Just and Paul . . . where, as we’ve seen above, James the Just is a brother of the Christ cult . . . and both of these guys came after the supposed life of Jesus Christ . . . are constanly telling people, “don’t worry, Jesus Christ will come.”

The mystery of Paul deepens.  Romans 16:11 has it that Paul is a Herodian. Also, biblical scholars can't help noticing that Paul's travels and an Appollonius of Tyana are the same. Seems that Paul is a combining of many different people.  Scholars note that the Paul of Acts is different from the Paul of Romans/Corinthians.  And then, the later Pauline epistles seems to be a different character as well - the Epistles of Titus.  One thing is for sure, the New Testament appears to be pro-Romans/Herodian.

The Gospel of Mark 12:17 says "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's". Paul in Roman's 13 says to conform to what the government says and pay your taxes, "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."

More evidence that there never was a Jesus Christ is coins. coins from Minoa crete over 1000B.C. have been found with mazes on them, of course, there's the Alexander the Great coin with the rams horns. I've seen Greek coins around 300 B.C. with geometric algebra on them. For a thousand years before the supposed life of Jesus Christ, people coined every major historical event, concern, and major figures, kings and philosophers. There are no Jesus Christ coins. There's people who have mentioned passages that the Jews don't make idols; but, they don't do so so their mythology can't be disproved. It's the same reason the gods were moved first to the heavens, then to extra dimensions, anywhere that can't be seen. Besides, when one comes to understand that the Gospels and Pauline epistles are Herodian/Pro-Roman(give to caesar what is his; in other words pay your taxes, Matt 22:15, Mark 12:17 and even in the Pauline epistles), then you would figure that someone, somewhere would make Jesus Christ coins. It wouldn't have been up to the Jews to do so. Oh yes, they had coins too! So where does this Jesus Christ come from?

He comes from Midrashing. Almost everypage of every gospel and Pauline epistle and even Revelations has it stated where they get their info about Jesus Christ - from scripture. Yes, that's right, Jesus Christ is scripturally derived. Philo, if you remember was the man who started the midrashing of the old testament and Greek philosophy(Plato's Logos). Giving some highlights,

- Romans 16:25, "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,”

- Zechariah 9:9 seems to be the midrash for Jesus coming into Jerusalem on an ass . . . or a colt . . . or both depending on which gospel you read!

- Isaiah 7:14 says a lord shall be born of a virgin and called Immanual. The Gospel of Matthewe quotes this even calling Jesus Christ Emannuel. The Isaiah 7:14 passage is a confirmation that Jesus Christ is made up because, whoever did this midrashing, midrashed the Septuagint, a Greek translation hundreds of years before the supposed life of Jesus Christ. Even if the Isaiah passage said virgin, instead of 'young woman', it's still midrash.  But, The Greek translators of the city of Alexandria, around 300 B.C. mistranslated it.  The maker of Matthew took this mistranslation at face value, and this reveals the truth that Jesus Christ is a just a midrashing, a scriptural derivation of the Old testament.

Believers will tell you this is "Prophecy"; but, as we know that Philo was midrashing, we know that midrashing is a kind of literary analyses.  Prophecy is taking these 'literary analyses' as some kind of workable mathematics. So, we know that Jesus Christ is just this imaginary construct, derived from midrashing.

More biblical evidences Paul is midrashing Jesus Christ into existence, and that this is what sets his sungod(Jesus Christ) apart from others . . .

Acts 17:2 ,"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,"

17:11 "in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

More of what sets Jesus Christ apart from Dionysus, Osirus/Horus, is he's suppose to be historical . . .

-"then he clearly manifested himself to be the son of god. For had he not come in the flesh, how should men have been able looked upon him, that they might be saved?"

This is in the Epistle of Barnabas chapter 4:13-14. Here, we see a kind of logic for midrashing Jesus Christ; to make him historical; otherwise, how else are people to be saved?

Early Christians, and in particular Justin Martyr here, who points out all kinds of midrashing, but mentions no Gospels of his time(after 100 A.D.), finds that he has to defend himself from "Pagans" who note his Jesus Christ is analogous to their gods(which are sungods) . . .

"- Justin Martyr ‘defended himself from Pagans(Christians word for those who are not christian), by saying “CHAPTER XXI — ANALOGIES TO THE HISTORY OF CHRIST.

And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound NOTHING DIFFERENT from WHAT YOU BELIEVE regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter: Mercury, the interpreting word and teacher of all;AEsculapius, who, though he was a great physician, was struck by a thunderbolt, and so ascended to heaven; and Bacchus too, after he had been torn limb from limb; and Hercules, when he had committed himself to the flames to escape his toils; and the sons of Leda, and Dioscuri; andPerseus, son of Danae; and Bellerophon, who, though sprung from mortals, rose to heaven on the horse Pegasus. For what shall I say of Ariadne, and those who, like her, have been declared to be set among the stars?

Getting back to the Romans 16:25 passage . . . it mentions something about mysteries. All the sungod priests since at least Greek times kept the mythology as 'mysteries.' Well, according to this Herodotus passage(book 2, chapter 61 of the "Histories"(de silencourt translation)}, the Egyptians also practiced keeping the mythology a mystery. Back then, there were tests to see if your mythology was worth listening to: in Dideche Chapter 11. An example in the New testament is 1John4:1.

We’ve had two statements above, the Justin Martyr saying Jesus Christ is just like the previous sungods, and now Paul saying the ‘mystery’ of Jesus Christ was known before.  These are statements that prove that Jesus Christ is just a retelling of previous sungod mythologies, so they can try to remove an inconsistency.  The inconsistency sungod mythology. When one has an inconsistent statement, one can prove anything one wants to. When one doesn’t feel comfortable with a fact, they use evasive inconsistent statements; and, if that doesn’t work, they resort to violence. . . .

Even a 400 A.D. Bishop of Constantinople Gregorius of Nyssa noticed this type of thinking and complained,

"People swarm everywhere, talking of incomprehensible matters, in hovels, streets and square, marketplaces, and crossroads. When I ask how many oboloi I have to pay, they answer with hairsplitting arguments about the born and the unborn. If I inquire the price of bread, I am told that the father is greater than the son. I call a servant to tell me whether my bath is ready; he rejoins that the son was created out of nothing."

New Testament/Jesus Christ examples . . .

 here’s one guy whom Jesus Christ himself is confronting, “In Mark 5:9, "Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”

“My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.”

The man in the tomb didn't want Jesus Christ to know there was only one man in the cave; so, he told them there was legions of people.”  But Jesus Christ himself is constantly trying to hide his identity . . .

Mark 1:24-25, “What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!”

25 “Be quiet!” said Jesus sternly. “Come out of him!”

. . . here we have the Demons telling Jesus they know who he is, and Jesus Christ telling them to shut up and come out of the possessed man. And then, further below, Jesus tells the now clean man to not tell anyone of this . . .

Mark 1:43 - "Jesus sent him away at once with a strong warning: 44 “See that you don’t tell this to anyone."

- Mark 3:11-12 has more cleased from demons people, and Jesus Christ telling them not to reveal it to anyone.

- Mark 5:43 . . . Mark 7:36 . . . Mark 9:9(Mark 9 is where Peter/James/John up to a mountain and transfigured . . whatever that means; he got white bright . . . Elijah and Moses appeared to them, and Jesus tells them not to tell anyone about this).

I should further relate these "don't tell anyone, less my dirty little secrets get out" to one of my favorite Pauline passages . . .

2 Thessalonians3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."

and another, "3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed."

Paul and the Gospels are pro-Roman. At the end of the Gospels is Pontus Pilate cleansing his and the Romans/Herodians hands of the killing of Jesus Christ.  They even blame it on the Jews!

Pontus Pilate tells the Jews that he'll give back Jesus Christ and take a criminal Barabbas.  But, the Jews are made to say they'd rather have the criminal! Mark 12-13, "And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews? . . . And they(the Jews) cried out again, Crucify him."

In Matthew, this is Matt 27:11 through 27:26; In 27:24, Pilate cleanses his hands, "he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person:" . . . and then the very next verse has the Jews willingly taking the blame for the crucification, "Then answered all the people, and said, HIs blood be on us and our children."

In Luke, the Herodians get cleared of all wrong doing.  In John 19:15, the Jews are made to say, we have no king but Caesar!

But! Right at the end of each Gospel, Jesus Christ does not tell, in this case, Pontus Pilate, to not reveal his name.  Now, it’s o.k. 

Paul says in 1 Thessalonians 2

the Jews:
2:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. "

The Jews were called "Christ killers" all through the dark ages. Why?  Does it make sense? No.  The only thing that makes sense, is there never was a Jesus Christ, and the Jews had to take the fall.  The whole Christ killers thing is disproof enough that there never was a Jesus Christ!(and the dangers of vague mythologizing minds).

Robert Eisenman further explains that James the Just and Paul are in competition with one another. James the Just sides with a Queen of Edessa, Helen of Adiabene.  While Paul went to the Romans for help. There's a temple dedicated to Helen of Adiabene right outside of the Jerusalem temple today!

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There's a passage in what's called the Psuedo-Clementine Recognitions where an attack by Paul/Saul on James the Just is revealed . . .

"Chapter LXX.—Tumult Raised by Saul.
“And when matters were at that point that they should come and be baptized, some one of our enemies,596 entering the temple with a few men, began to cry out, and to say, ‘What mean ye, O men of Israel? Why are you so easily hurried on? Why are ye led headlong by most miserable men, who are deceived by Simon, a magician?’ While he was thus speaking, and adding more to the same effect, and while James the bishop was refuting him, he began to excite the people and to raise a tumult, so that the people might not be able to hear what was said. Therefore he began to drive all into confusion with shouting, and to undo what had been arranged with much labour, and at the same time to reproach the priests, and to enrage them with revilings and abuse, and, like a madman, to excite every one to murder, saying, ‘What do ye? Why do ye hesitate? Oh sluggish and inert, why do we not lay hands upon them, and pull all these fellows to pieces?’ When he had said this, he first, seizing a strong brand from the altar, set the example of smiting. Then others also, seeing him, were carried away with like readiness. Then ensued a tumult on either side, of the beating and the beaten. Much blood is shed; there is a confused flight, in the midst of which that enemy attacked James, and threw him headlong from the top of the steps; and supposing him to be dead, he cared not to inflict further violence upon him.”"

This is after many passages saying the Jews were waiting for a Mesisah to come, and that the Jews said the Messiah never came.

More smoking guns proof that Jesus Christ never existed is Paul and James the Just both trying to tell the people that they promised Jesus Christ would come . . . will come.  Both of these characters(Paul and James the Just )lived after the supposed life of Jesus Christ.  If Jesus Christ had already come, then why are they trying to calm these people down and say that, he will come as our midrashing said so?  Because midrashing is just pseudo-science prophesizing. . . .

. . . Here Paul, 1 Thessalonians 2

"Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming? " and 2 Thessalonians 2

"2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 

. . . and here James the Just, Epistle of James(James the Just?), says 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord." and " 5:8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. "

Researchers have found over 41(if you count the number of times Paul says “mystery”); I’ll just mention one more – 2Peter3:4 – “Where is the promise  of his coming.”

Paul(Romans/Herodians) took over the Christ cult.  The Jews had to become "Christ-killers", and philosophers also had to be demonized, to separate themselves from even the Platonist/Gnostics. In 1Corinthians19, it is written! "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise"(this is actually a Isaiah 29:14 midrash as well!).

- Tertulian who said, "I believe because it is absurd." Further "The Son of God was born: there is no shame, because it is shameful.

And the Son of God died: it is wholly credible, because it is unsound.

And, buried, He rose again: it is certain, because impossible."

- Where people want to be fooled, there's always somebody willing to oblige them,

- "XXXI. That it will be necessary sometimes to use falsehood as a remedy for the benefit of those who require such a mode of treatment(that is Eusebius Preparatio Evangelica, book 12, chapter 31." This is the chapter heading(the style of the age); if you go to this book and the chapter, you'll see that Eusebius quotes Plato's Laws.

As Paul says in Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." . . . and, 1Timothy6:20, "Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,"  And, "Every trace of the old philosophy and literature of the ancient world has vanished from the face of the earth." - this is John Chrysostom of the Byzantine empire.

- In 325 A.D. was the Council of Nicea. The Council was set up by Roman Emperor Constantine and Bishop Eusebius. It's said that Eusebius converted Constantine to Christianity on his death bed; but, this is clearly false.  Constantine went around saying he was pagan. While behind the scenes, he was setting up the Council of Nicea; he was dividing the Roman empire up into two halves - the western pagan Rome, and the now, under Constantine, the eastern Byzantine empire. He did this because he knew he could never get Pagan Rome to convert to Christianity.  Pagan Rome knew what Christianity was.

The Council of Nicea also was about arguing against a Arius, who was influential in the city of Alexandria. So, we have from Ptolemy 1's invention of Serapsis, to Philo's midrashing of the old testament and Plato, to the Council of Nicea being about hammering out doctrine of the myth making going on in Alexandria.

Alexander the Great created Alexandria to spread and combine the worlds knowledge. Unfortunately, it backfired because it combined mythology with mathematical knowledge(gematria - see the works of Philo!). When you're arguing against vague ideas, one can argue endlessly. This is what happened in the library of Alexandria. The mathematics schools got swamped by the mythologizing - the constant literary analyses of poetry/mythology which can never be proved one way or another. Meanwhile, the mythologists would point out that the mathematics of the day wasn't perfect; therefore, believe in their god.  See, god is just a play on ignorance.  It says, we don't know/can't know the infinity of nature . . . not to mention pointing out the errors of this or that mathematical theory; therefore, god exists, and throw away all that mathematics.  Don't learn how nature works; don't develop technology because it will eventually break.  This all culminated in the theology of Saint Augustine's "City of God."

Because of this irrationality apologetics, the religious went on a destruction of the light of Reason. They murdered Hypatia about 415 A.D.  They lured her in a Christian church, from which they flayed her skin by seashells, then tore her apart, limb by limb, and burned her remains to ashes. They burned down the library of Alexandria(the Arabs would finish the job around 600 A.D. because as they say, "if it's of Allah, we already know; if it's not, then it must not be worth learning."

The European dark ages were a Christian era through and through. There's a lot of Christian history that happened there; so, I'm ending this at the sacking of Rome around 410 A.D.(curiously, they didn't sack Constantinople, and/or destroy the Sophia Haglia temple, which is great; it's a great building; I'm just saying, how come they didn't invade the Eastern Roman empire, but they did manage to invade the western Rome and then go around spreading Christianity?  Could the Germanic barbarians have been payed off by the Eastern Christian empire to help end the pagan world? This would have fit in with Emperor Constantine's 'divide and conquer' tactic of setting up the Eastern Christian empire)  But, real quickly, the dark ages can be divided into two halves. The first five hundred years after the sacking of Rome, and then the second half, around 1060 A.D. when Europeans discovered the Arabs had preserved Greek mathematical science knowledge.

The first half of the dark ages was a fight between those who believed Jesus Christ was the son of man, and those who claimed he was the sun of God. Read the Jesus Wars for the details. It was literally bloodshed between Christian factions for five hundred years.  Not to mention, they were using torture to convert the northern European pagans.  The result was a Viking backlash that destroyed the Charlemagne renaissance(if you want to call a Christian reawakening a renaissance).

Then in the second half of the dark ages was the famous Inquisitions against the new Greek knowledge coming from Arab Spain, and the crusades that helped pay for the island state of Venice.