Sunday, April 24, 2011

Flashgordon's "Gospel of Truth"


Flashgordon's "Gospel of Truth"

 
Recently, archaeologists have unearthed a "Nebra Sky disk" dated to 1600B.C. It was unearthed in contemporary Germany around 1999A.D. It has the stars, sun, and moon. It also has the Pleides, two equal gold leafs on either side a boat at the bottom. The two gold leaflets at the edges may measure out degrees geometrically without numbers. The boat is rather interesting as is the pleides representation. The Pleides and the boat were often used in Egyptian mythology. Many Egyptian temples had sunboats in them, actually. In Egyptian mythology, the sunboats were to take the Pharohs or the Egyptian sungods Ra and Osirus to heaven and hell and back.


This is actually a picture of Ra in a solar barge. The Egyptians actually symbolically put boats in all their temples as sunboats for the Pharoh to be taken to heaven.


It's interesting that the sun takes center stage in Egyptian mythology and finds its way to Europe. The English Stonehenge(there's many stonehenges around Ireland as well and throughout Europe actually) is also proof that ancient peoples everywhere worshipped the Sun, and mapped out the seasons. Stonehenge maps out the sun through the twelve months of the year. Mankind whether through cultureal contact or the fact that all cultures growing up from ignorance to knowledge of the heavens would naturally mythologize and worship the sun, the moon, and the stars. But, today's cultures seem to be ignorant or often shocked that their latest religions may take from and evolve from those sungod worshipping peoples - the Egyptians and people before them.
The main cultures after the cave painters of tens of thousands of years ago were generally the Mesopotamians, the Egyptians, and then the Greeks and Romans(the Greeks and Romans are distinct; but, they also had much contact throughout their ancient times; there's Greek pathenon temples on the Italian peninsula Sicily, the boot island of the Italian peninsula). Just to speed through history and hint at things to come. The word Easter comes from Ishtar, lover of Bablonian sungod Tammuz, who was given "Sheppard" and "Lamb of God" symbolism thousands years before "Jesus Christ." Herodotus replaces Osirus in his writings as Dionysus; hence, he considers the two sungods to be the same. The name Dionysus is translated as "God of Nysa"(Herodotus, Histories, 3-97 has Herodotus mentioning Nysa, "The Ethiopians who dwell about sacred Nysa and hold the festivals in honour of Dionysus"), and city in modern Turkey(in ancient times, Bablon). Excavations of Nysa have uncovered temples of the Mithras god. This establishes links between Dionysus and Mithras. And, we've already established link between Dionysus and Osirus. Everyone knows that the Vatican Saint Peters is built on top of an old Mithras temple; can we establish links between all these ancient sungods, Osius, mithras, Dionysus, and . . . Jesus Christ? Before then, let me point out a few things.
The fact that the six days of creation of the book of Genesis follows closely the Epic of Gilgamesh and the flood story is also clearly a redo of that more ancient story is well known and well established. But, I've found that the Egyptian influence on the Torah is perhaps underrated. Actualy this part is farely well known also. It seems that the Hymn to Akhenaten is reproduced in the Psalm 104. The Hymn to Akhenaten is about sunworshipping. Well, I've found that this Hymn to Akhenaten is more integrated in the Torah(the first five books of the Old Testament) than just this little curiosity.

Some of the influences of the religion of Akhenaton are how Yahweh created the languages, the seasons, and how Yahweh begat King Soloman. See Andrew Benson's "The Origins of Christianity and the Bible" for the Hymn of Aton equivalents.

What's interesting about Akhenaton Aton creating the seasons is this is in Genesis; for instance, 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of

the heaven to divide the day from the night;" and let them be for

signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: " Yes, God is being an astrologer here.
If you read "Christ in Egypt" by a Murdock(she usually likes to go by the name of Acharya S), you'll see that repeating all the evidence of that book would make this "Gospel of Truth" over five hundred pages long. This would defeat the my purpose here; to give as short as possible some of the most clear evidence of where all this mythology/god(s) stuff comes from. I'm only going to give like one or two interesting evidences from her book here. One is a Leiden Hymn to Amun.
"All Gods are three
Amun, Re, Ptah they have no equal.
His name is hidden as Amun,
He is Re in the face,
and his body is Ptah."
This Hymn is the theology of the trinity thousands of years before Christianity.
Josephus(who we'll see more of later) mentions that the twelve tribes of Israel are just the twelve constellations of the zodiac. Josephus is refereing to Genesis 49. Reference is Josephus "Antiquities of the Jews" book 3 chapter 7 section 7(practically the very last paragraph of chapter 7 as well).
-Rueben = aquarius because of "the beginning of my strength . . . unstable as water."

-Simen and Levi = Gemini because of the twins of Gemini

-Judah = Leo beause of the "lions welp"

-Zebulun = libra because of "who shall be far an haven of ships; or the ship sign, ark"

-Issachar = Taurus because of "strong ass, workhorse"

-Dan = Scorpio because it is between sagitarrious and capricornious

-Gad = Pisces because Gad is the reversal of dag, a fish god

-Asher = Virgo because of "rich food or fat bread"

-Naphtali = Capricornus because he's a "hind let loose, the goat

-Joseph = Safittarious because he was fiercely attacked by archers

-Benjamoin = Aries becuase "the ravenous wolf who divides the spoils"
I've shown that the Hebrews clearly took from surrounding peoples as all cultures did back then. One major thing the Hebrews took from the surrounding cultures was the alphabetical style of language started from the Phoenicians(there's some indications the Phoenicians might have originaly come from Minoa Crete). The Phoenicians might have been the sea peoples. In archaeology of this time period, this is still a bit of a mystery. At the time, there was Minoa Crete and the city of Troy for instance. After the sea peoples, these cultures were no more. The european cultures went into a dark ages and so did just about everyone else except the Egyptians. They were the only culture to survive these sea peoples. The Hittites in contemporary Turkey whom the Egyptians were in constant competition with were wiped out. This is all like 1200 B.C. Out of the social vacuum created by the sea peoples came the Greeks and the Hebrews. Both these cultures picked up on the new alphabetical style language created according to all ancient sources from the Phoenicians. But for the most part, these two cultures evolved in radically different ways. The Greeks created "Euclid's Elements"; the Hebrews created the Torah and associated writings. This doesn't mean the Greeks were totally rational as we'll see.
Archaeologists discovered a Merneptah Stele around 1896. It is the first historical mention of Israelites. So, we know they had to be around before then. But there, we run into problems. In fact, the archaeological problems become biblical problems because the Judahites writing in 600B.C. timeframe gave clues of a great exodus from Egypt; and that according to them was where Israelites came from. The archaeology presents problems for the Judahite account because back then, greater than 1200 B.C, the Egyptians were at the height of their powers. This was the time the Egyptians built Karnak and Abu Simbel. Archaeologists find that during this great building time, they had built great fortress walls indicating the boundaries of their country. There, they had guards stationed, patrolling up and down these barriers. They've found tablets recording everything and everybody that went in and out of these gates. And well, there's no mention of a great exodus, a hundred thousand slaves of anybody Jew or otherwise happening sometime before 1200B.C. There was the Hyksos around 1500 when some Canaanites actually conquered Egypt for a period. The Egyptians eventually drove them out and into the Levant/Canaan/Israel. One could argue that this was what the Judahites of ~600B.C. meant. But, I'll leave it at that.

The Israelites mentioned by the Merneptah Stele grew into a rather sophisticated and rich nation. Well, let's understand that there was a fertile lower ground northern land where the Israel state was, and a higher land southern land where Judahites lived. There was certainly some connection between the two, as there probably was between the Canaanites and the Israelites. But, there was distinctions to be made. There's great marble column ruins build by the Omrides(whom the later Judahites demonized in their writings). Point is the northern Israelites were rich and sophisticated enough to create great cities that can be seen today. The southern highlands were dry and barelly habitable. Back in these ancient times, slave labor was like gold and oil is today. Nation-States fight over them. Back then, Nation-States went to war to take the skilled slave labor of other countries to help build their great temples. This is essentially what happened to the northern Israelites. These were moderate willing to trade with one another surrounding cultures and even take in each other gods. The Assyrians conquered and absorbed the northern state of Israel around 740B.C. To stress that the Israelites and the Judahites were a bit more distinct than most would think, there's 2kings14:9, the Israelite king calls the Judahite king a thistle who goes to Lebanon for help because they can't take care of themselves. Here we also see that the Israelites were generaly strong and rich, while the Judahites were weak and poor. When the Assyrians came to conquer the Israelites for their skilled labor, they didn't lift a finger to conquer the southern highlands. They didn't have any slave labor worth picking up.

The biblical literature was clearly written by the Judahites. In Genesis 49:8-10, it is said that Judah is to be the center of the world really; it says the skeptre shall never depart Judah. Why would anywhere in the universe be the center of the universe? The fact that the Bible essentially makes Judah of all places the center of the universe is a dead giveaway that the Torah and associated writings were written in Judah around the time of King Josiah around 640 to 600 B.C. In fact In 2Kings 22:8-23:24, High Priest Hilkiah miraculously finds the torah in his back room(kind of convenient, ha!?). Lets get back to the whole astrotheology theme. What astrotheology can be found in the Old Testament?

We've already indicated some above from Josephus about the twelve tribes of Israel being the twelve constellations. There's quite a lot. I'm going to only highlight(kind of the purpose of this gospel of truth actually!). In Dueteronomy 4:19, we have "the sun, the moon, and the stars and all the hosts of heaven." This is much quoted; but, reading around it, we find King Josiah actually telling the Jews to stop worshipping the sun and stars(and Asherahs; which turns out to be God's wife; god has a wife; but King Josiah and those making up the Old testament only want a male god; so they're going around this time destroying all the Asherahs). Going back in time, we have Amos one of the very earliest Israelite prophets/writers. In Amos 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name" Here we see that the God(s) are just the sun, the moon, the stars, and the constellations! Oh yes, the Pleides shows up again in Hebrew mythology just like in Egyptian and the Nebra sky disk! In fact, in Genesis 1:14, we have it that the stars are created for astrological purposes(also see Psalm 104:19). Astrology is astronomy for the purpose of healing the sick; it's also often taken in by the Kings and Priests to tax the population and 'rule by divine rite.' Here we're beginning to see that the Old Testament is a astrology text. The constellations and the Pleides turn out to be gods again in Job 9:9. Also, in Job 38:31-33 we see God as controlling the constellations. Why would god control some artificial pattern(the constellations)? That's right, it's humans making up gods and making them for astrological purposes to rule by divine right. Isaiah 47:13 explicitly mentions astrology, 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. There's more that can be said for astrology in the bible, but I think I've made my point!

The Judahites took a lot more from the surrounding cultures than just astrology(hence proof the astrotheological nature and origin of any cultures gods). For instance, there's the famous ten commandments Deut chapter 5 for instance. These have always been known as analogous to Code of Hammerabi from the Babylonians and the Egyptian book of the dead chapter 125. What I'd like to note about the ten commandments is that they say things like never take the lords name in vain, and don't stop worshipping me. Talk about a Jealous god. This is the language of every dictator and gangster in history! In fact, I'd go so far as to equate religion, with cults, and cults with gangsters. Nowhere in the bible old or new testament will you find, "question everything including what I say." It's always, believe in everything I say or else I'll kill you and your mother. Faith is a convenient tool for gangsters and dictators/kings. In fact, in 1Samuel chapter 8:10-22, Samuel offers democracy, but the people and ultimately God shouts him down.

One could have lots more fun with scripture about the nature of gods back then. In Genesis 31:30 is one of my favorites. The Patriarches are stealing the gods and hiding them from one another, "yet wherefore hast thou stolen my gods?" In Exodus, we find that mana from heaven is just hallucinogenic mushrooms, "Exodus 16:14 . . . it came by night after dew had settled in the soil . . . and a little round thing appeared". God hardens the heart of the Egyptian Pharoh so he can make a fool of him; he hardens lots of hearts so that some Jews can run them through. "God hardens hearts Exodus 4:2-1, 7:4-5, Deut 2:30; this one, God hardens some tribeman's heart so that Moses has to strike him down. He does it again at Joshua 11:20. The exodus passages has God hardening the heart of the Egyptian Pharoh."

I've had plenty of fun blasting the Hebrew mythologizing for now. I'd like to stress Deut chapter 4 again. Here we have King Josiah ordering his fellow jews from patterning their gods after the stars. Hence, the Jews were trying to learn the universe. Point is that the anti-science Jewish religion is due to some king with a literary weapon(literacy and the new Phoenician alphabetical language) making a religion to rule by divine right. It's not all the Jews. The word all is the problem. Much of the human problems has been people going to war because some subset of a given culture stirs up trouble. Then, the other culture just decides all of the other culture must be destroyed. Part of Humanities problem is refusing to question their own beliefs; this is part of why I right this "Gospel of Truth". The other problem is gross generalisations poor questioning of assumptions and drawing idealisations to far. I've seen some modern Israelites(really jews; the Israel state and people were taken in by the Assyrians; modern day Iraqis and Iranians!) who understand this religious problem of "we're the chosen ones; all else get to go to hell". But, they go back and forth, so I also don't mean to let modern Jews off the hook either. The fact that the Judahites made a 'chosen ones' religion(the old testament) is what led to further Jewish problems of being Exhiled, and then the Messianic frenzy that led to the Romans destroying the Jews tempel(really herodian) around 66 and 125 A.D. But this is all getting ahead of the story. Mankinds struggle between rational mathematical science and poetic mythology continued with the greeks.

The Greeks were coming out of their dark ages around the time the Jews were being exiled to Babylon again. Thales, Pythagoras first went to Egypt and Babylon to learn all the knowledge they could. They took everything, the mathematics and the mythology. At least they took the mathematics. But, they also took the mythology. The Greeks like the Hebrews grew up on the Phoenician alphabetical style language. They used the same symbols they used for their natural language for their representation of numbers. They'd then use the numbers for their natural language in their mixing of mathematics and Egyptian/Babylonian mythology. This is called gematria and later with the mixing of Greek or Hellenistic religion with Jewish old testament 'midrashing.' Midrashing is a kind of linguistic analogy. The point is that the Plato gematria would mix with the midrashing of the old testament to make the New testament. For instance, the logos, or the word of God that Jesus Christ is called in the Gospel of John goes back to Plato.

Actually, I have two remarkable quotes in relation to kings ruling by divine right and where the Pythagoreans got their religion from. "Diodorus of Sicily says the Pythagoreans got their religious ideas from the Egyptians(book one, 98).

Diodorus of Sicily is interesting here because he’s b.c. time and notes that hell is made up to keep people inline(book 1.2.2 -”For if it be true that the myths which are related about Hades, in spite of the fact that their subject-matter is fictitious, contribute greatly to fostering piety and justice among men,”)."
Getting back to Plato. The middle 1900s were a great time for biblical archaeology. They found the dead sea scrolls(1946) and the Nag Hammadi library(1945). The Nag Hammadi library is a collection of Gnostic gospels and epistles. The suggetion is that after Emperor Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire, they went on a book burning crusade. Some Gnostics apparently got smart and stuck their scrolls in jars and ditched them in the Egyptian sands. Amongs the catch was found . . . Plato's Republic! What in the world was Plato's Republic doing amongst Gnostic christian scrolls? Midrashing. They were midrashing the old testament to fit Platonic philsophy - the dominant philosophy in various forms since Hellenistic times(Alexander the Great spreading Greek culture is called "Hellenism"). We're getting ahead of the story here and there; well, lets get to some evidences for Platonism and Plato's Republic in the New Testament.
"Plato’s hell is Tartarus(Plato, Phaedo 113e). Curiously, the writer of 2Peter says tartarus at 2:4.

More correlations between Plato and the New Testament are . . .

-“keeping the soul unspotted”(Plato Republic Book 10, 621B-C also found in

Epistle of James 1:27

-”believe and you will be saved”(Plato Republic, book 10, 621B-C also found in Luke 8:12)

-”Lake of fire”(Plato, Phaedo, 113A also found in Revelation 20:10)

-”all things work together for the best”(Plato Republic Book 10, 613A and Romans 8:28


I think having that many can’t be an accident; but, one last Plato/New testament tidbit is most shocking of all! "the just man will have to endure the lash, the rack, chains, the branding-iron in his eyes, and finally, after every extremity of suffering, he will be crucified" (Plato Republic II. 361D-362A)
I'd like to stress Plato's "believe and you will be saved" a bit more. In 1931, Kurt Godel became one of the great logicians(deductive logic) by publishing his incompleteness/inconsistency proofs. In Euclid's "Elements", the deductive process is started by means of assuming certain self-evident statements. Euclid has ten. Every ruler from Hammerabi to King Josiah has put up a list of fundamental rules to live by; in the old testament, these are the ten commandments. I've already covered this a bit. My point is that Kurt Godel proves that a finite set of axioms cannot prove an infinity of truths. Of if they can, they must be inconsistent. Euclid's axioms are consistent; the ten commandments and most supernatural religious commandments are made to be inconsistent - such as "believe and you will be saved." Well, this statement gets generalised to "believe and you will believe" through the ages. Another vague twisty statement to shut up further questioning and thought is Exodus 3:14 where Moses asks God for his name, and God says "I am that I am." God is a vague word. It is an inconsistent statement that can prove everything without explaining anything. God is the algebraic X standing for "I dont know", and "don't bother me with questions I can't answer" , and "I don't want to know." There's some more curious Plato Republic quotes that relates to mythology versus mathematical science.
A Socrates passage through Plato is Republic, Book 2, 380A-B. "Socrates through Plato apparently argued that the god passages in Homer sound suspiciously made up!(Plato Republic, Book 2, 377D-E, 378A.) Socrates then further argued that to make the passages legit, one should allegorize." What we have here is questions one whether to historicise or allegorize the mythological ideas of religion. Their fighting on the reality of the poetry/mythology process. Both mythology and mathematics are analogies; one is consistent and constructive, the other is not. The Greeks from Socrates to Plato are getting confused on this issue! I've found a curious reference to Eratosthenes writing some gospel out of the zodiacal constellations. Eratosthenes was writing around 200B.C. He's more famous for having the logical insight to calculate the circumference of the earth using vertical sticks. In Thomas Heath's "History of Greek Mathematics:Vol 2" about Eratosthenes, Mr Heath notes in passing that Eratosthenes wrote some story about the twelve constellations of the zodiac. I've tried to look around. All I can find is commentary that others have seen this. They further note that Eratosthenes argued that one should not confuse the such myth making for real science. That these mythological stories should be used only for entertainment purposes. Apparently, the vast majority turned a deaf ear.
Herodotus reveals that the Egyptians had personified the twelve constellations long before them, Herodotus 2:43(histories) says the Egyptians personified the twelve constellations, “to portion out its course into twelve parts. They obtained this knowledge from the stars. Herodotus further states that the Egyptians personified the twelve constellations. A D.M. Murdock, who otherwise goes by the name of Acharya S, shows that the whole mythology of Jesus Christ goes back thousands of years before the supposed life of Jesus Christ in her "Christ in Egypt." I cannot repeat every shred of evidence she gathers in there. She digs out many books of the dead, and many sarcoficase papyra. The point is that religion back then is astrotheology and so is Christianity. The twelve followers correspond to the twelve constellations of the zodiac, the virgin birth and everything else is all Egyptian. But, there is much more intersting things to say about Jesus Christ and the Christian religion of course!
Alexander the Great conquered the Mediterraenean and spread Greek culture. There's ancient Greek coins of his time showing him with rams horns. Why would he have rams horns? This part is pretty hard to believe. Scholars will tell you that Hipparchus around 100A.D was the first to learn of the precession of the equinoxes. But, the mythology of the period suggests that maybe the Babylonians at least knew of them far earlier. The astrologers know the precession of the equinoxes well. They know of how the constellation of the equinoxes changes over 2000+ years. It has gone from Taurus the bull, the Aries the Ram, to Pisces the fish. We've seen many times now mention of the constellation of the bull, not much of the ram or the fish. But, now we have this coin of Alexander the Great with rams horns. We also know that the Egyptians used to go to a temple celebrating Aries the Ram; it's said that Alexander had these coins stamped to appease the Egyptians. Also, the Jews of this time had a tradition of blowing the rams horn. The mythology is that Moses is the symbolic figure that turns the ages from age of Taurus the Bull to Aries the age of the Ram. And then, Jesus Christ is suppose to do the passover from the age of the Ram to the Age of Pisces, or the fish. This is why Jesus Christ is associated with fish. You can argue Hipparchus all you want, the mythology artwork through the ages fits the patten of the precession of the equinoxes. You would think that everyone around the Mediterraenean would be waiting for the end of the age of Aries and the new beginning. In fact, we can find some.

Coin of Alexander the Great with Rams horns
One is a passage from a Julian calendar dated 9 B.C. . .

"The Providence which rules over all has filled this man with such gifts for the salvation of the world as designated him as savior for us and for the coming generations; of wars he will make an end, and establish all things worthily. By his appearing are the hopes of our forefathers fulfilled; not only has he surpassed the good deeds of earlier times, but it is impossible that one greater than he can ever appear. The birthday of God has brought to the world glad tidings that are bound up in him. From his birthday a new era begins."

Now for the Virgil passage from his "Eclogue 4",

"Come are those last days that the Sybil sang: The ages' might march begins anew. Now comes the virgin, Saturn reigns again: now from high heaven descends a wondrous race. Thou on the newborn babe-who first shall end . . . That age of iron, bid a golden dawn . . . Upon the broud world-chaste Lucina, smile: Now thy Apollo reigns."

This passage would be dated around 37 B.C. I've gotten some feedback that this might be an interpolation from Emperor Constantine. See Pagans and Christians by Robin Fox Lane. I havn't confirmed it. It just seems odd that Emperor Constantine would interpolate the works of Virgil to disprove his christian religion. I may also be tired of reading and investigating all this stuff!
Even the Jews apparently were on some Messianic end of the world hopes and dreams. There's been discovered a "Revelation of Gabriel" tablet that speaks of a Simon who was resurrected after three days. The truth is there were many people around the first century B.C. waiting for the end of the world.
A main guy, perhaps the main guy, to start midrashing the old testament and combine with Greek philosophy is Philo, who lived before, during and after the supposed life of Jesus Christ; but, he never mentions a Jesus Christ in his works! Philo is very into Plato's 'logos'. He has even more interesting history that perhaps evolves into more significance for the beginnings of Christianity. Philo was rediculously rich. He controlled the trade from Mesopotamia and hence from India and China into the city of Alexandria. That should give you some idea of how rich this guy was. The guy could practically pay people to believe in whatever he wanted the ignorant masses to believe. I don't know if he used his money quite like that; but, Philo happened to have a Nephew - a Tiberius Alexander.
Tiberius Alexander was second in command with Titus who was second in command to his Roman Emperor father Vespasian. Tiberius Alexander hated a James the Just. He was said to have gone from pure Judaism to some radical religion. Tiberius Alexander along with Titus destroyed Jerusalem around 66 A.D. Also, Tiberius Alexander used his uncles money to pay Vespasians way into the Emperor seat of the Roman empire. All else is certainly hard to confirm. Some suspect that Tiberius may have written proto-gospel of Mark.
Another nephew of Philo was a Marcus Alexander became husband to a Berenice, a Herodian(half Jewish princess). Berenice makes some appearences in the New Testament(Acts 25:23). Just one of the curious appearances of Herodians in the New Testament. There's another curious character in the destruction of Jerusalem around 66 A.D. - Flavius Jospehus.
 
Between the sungod mythology and the end of the wold suggestions due to the precession of the equinoxes suggested the end of the world is coming; and, the "Revelation of Gabriel" tablet also proves that the Jews took to messianisms back then. However the history of Philo's influence on gospel making and the paying Vespasians way to be the Roman emperor, another character takes center stage after Philo - Josephus, specifically, Flavius Josephus. Josephus was a Jew. Flavius is an official imperial roman name. How does a jew get an offiicial imperial name? Josephus was a Jewish general fighting the romans. According to his testamony, he decided to turn roman. One day, the Roman legions were coming, him and some of his fellow officers remaining hid in a cave. They drew straws to see who was going to cut the others throats. Fortunatelly for Josephus anyways, he got the right straw. He slit their throats and surrendered to the Roman emperor Titus. Titus was Roman emperor Vespasian's son and second in command at the time. Josephus apparently told Titus and Vespasian about the Jewish prophesy in Numbers 24 that a messiah will save them and destroy their enemies. Josephus became the Roman's spokesperson to try to get the messianic Jews to not be messianic and pay their taxes like every other culture the Romans had conquered and absorbed. Josephus also told them everything about the Jews. Why did he do this?
Apparently, Flavius Josephus felt that the messianic strain of Jews brought the Roman legions down on the Jews; so, the messianic strain had to be taken out. But, could Josephus have been more than even that? Could he have acted as a spy? Getting a little ahead of the story, Robert Eisenman in his "James Brother of Jesus" shows analogies between the works of Josephus and the Pauline epistles and much other literature, some clementine recognitions and much else besides. What he decodes out it all is that whether there was a Jesus Christ or not, the Jesus Christ of the Gospels is just a hellenistic sungod overwright for a "James the Just." In the Gospel of Mark, James is the less in chapter 15. I'm not going to get into the thousand pages of Mr Eisenman's work - just give a few things here and there. I for one find it weird that Josephus knows so much of the happenings between Paul and James the Just. One of the things Eisenman decodes is that Paul killed James the Just. This is just me; but, with Jospehus's photographic memory(as described by Mr Eisenman), of the events, I've often suspected that Josephus is Paul! I've found one almost undeniable correspondence between the life story of Josephus and Paul,
"Josephus: Shipwrecked on voyage to Rome

"But when I was in the twenty-sixth year of my age, it happened that I took a voyage to Rome ... At the time when Felix was procurator of Judea there were certain priests of my acquaintance ... whom on a small and trifling occasion he had put into bonds, and sent to Rome to plead their cause before Caesar ...

Accordingly I came to Rome, though it were through a great number of hazards by sea; for as ourship was drowned in the Adriatic Sea, we that were in it, being about six hundred in number, swam for our lives all the night; when, upon the first appearance of the day, and upon our sight of a ship of Cyrene, I and some others, eighty in all, by God's providence, prevented the rest, and were taken up into the other ship.

And when I had thus escaped, and was come to Dieearchia, which the Italians call Puteoli."

- Josephus, Life,3

St Paul: "Shipwrecked on voyage to Rome"

"Felix, willing to show the Jews a pleasure, left Paul bound." - Acts 24.27.
"They talked between themselves, saying, This man doeth nothing worthy of death or of bonds. - Acts 26.31.

"It was determined that we should sail into Italy ... And entering into a ship of Adramyttium ... we came to Myra ... And there the centurion found a ship of Alexandria sailing into Italy ... they sailed close by Crete. But not long after there arose against it a tempestuous wind ... no small tempest lay on us ... But when the fourteenth night was come, as we were driven up and down in Adria ... And falling into a place where two seas met, they ran the ship aground; and the forepart stuck fast, and remained unmovable, but the hinder part was broken with the violence of the waves.

The centurion ... commanded that they which could swim should cast themselves first into the sea, and get to land. And the rest, some on boards, and some on broken pieces of the ship. And so it came to pass, that they escaped all safe to land. And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria ...

And landing at Syracuse ... and came to Rhegium: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came the next day to Puteoli."

Now remember Josephus doesn't like the messianic strain of Jews. James the Just was one of the last leaders of this messianic movement. More curiuos things between Josephus and the New Testament Pauline epistles is a Epiphroditus, a roman emperor secretary. This roman secretary makes an appearence in the New Testament, Philippians 2:25 where Paul says Epiphroditus is an apostle for christianity. Epiphroditus funded the works of Josephus. There's more curious things about this friend of Josephus. Mr Eisenman's "The New Testament Code", shows some remarkable linguistic shorthands for various people in the Josephus circle; that of Timothy for Titus, a Silas as equivalent linguistic form shorthand for a Silvanus(yes, the silas of the Da Vinci Code), a Erastus could correspond to Epaphroditus. References would be acts 19:22, 2Timothy4:20, Romans 16:23. So, all these friends of Josephus appear in this linguistic shorthand except! Josephus! Where does Josephus go in the New Testament? I'd say Paul. Josephus is overwritten as Paul just like James the Just is by Jesus Christ.

I find all the above compelling that Josephus acted as a spy for the Roman empire and killed James the Just. Some try to argue that Josephus wrote the Gospel of Mark. I've never and always knew that the writing styles between Josephus and any of the Gospels(and even the Pauline epistles; Josephus doesn't have to write them; he's being overwritten, coded up, hidden as paul) are totally different. Josephus is a very modern scientific style writer. But, Josephus and his circle were clearly trying to pull something as Josephus has it written in his "War against the Jews", 6.5.4. that Roman emperor Vespasian is the coming messiah! But, the Flavians, Vespasian and Titus, didn't last. They died by natural causes by all accounts. We don't know what happened to Josephus; but, Epiphroditus was apparently killed by the next Roman emperor, Domitian, because he was disappearing and running all over the empire for some strange reason(could Epiphroditus be Paul?). Domitian was shortly assasinated by christians and court officials. Clearly somebody was rich and powerfull enough to enact revenge!  As Robert Eisenman stresses, there were no scientific reporting like we had with Josephus since Josephus's time. It's really hard to trace who wrote or did what after this period. But, there's all kinds of I would say smoking guns no matter how you turn them.

Western culture people for certain and maybe in the twentieth century on people who might read this are probably wondering "what about Jesus Christ?" We've gone before, during, and after the supposed life of Jesus Christ, and we said nothing about him! That's right! There's nothing to say! There is no archaeology of Jesus Christ around this time! There's even a big archaeological debate on the existence of the city of Nazareth around this time! You would think that if there was a son of god, who walked on water, caused a big ruckus by turning over tables and promised salvation for all would be plastered all over the mediterraenean at this time! Instead, you find Philo and Josephus who are silent about a Jesus Christ. We've already covered those two characters, and for some readers who might wonder about Josephus; it's well known that the one passage in Josephus . . . one little passage; you would think he'd wright chapters and books on Jesus Christ; but, no we find one little vague couple of sentences . . . is a Eusebius forgery; it't been proven forgery in so many ways for so long; i'm not going to lenghthen this by going into that Eusebius forgery in depth. I would like to mention one really remarkable archaeological record that is also absent of any mention of Jesus Christ - coins.

Yes, coins from Minoa crete over 1000B.C. have been found with mazes on them, of course, there's the Alexander the Great coin with the rams horns. I've seen Greek coins around 300 B.C. with geometric algebra on them. For a thousand years before the supposed life of Jesus Christ, people coined every major historical event, concern, and major figures, kings and philosophers. There are no Jesus Christ coins. There's people who have mentioned passages that the Jews don't make idols; but, they don't do so so their mythology can't be disproved. It's the same reason the gods were moved first to the heavens, then to extra dimensions, anywhere that can't be seen. Besides, when one comes to understand that the Gospels and Pauline epistles are Herodian/Pro-Roman(give to caesar what is his; in other words pay your taxes, Matt 22:15, Mark 12:17 and even in the Pauline epistles), then you would figure that someone, somewhere would make Jesus Christ coins. It wouldn't have been up to the Jews to do so. Oh yes, they had coins too! So where does this Jesus Christ come from?

He comes from Midrashing. Almost everypage of every gospel and Pauline epistle and even Revelations has it stated where they get their info about Jesus Christ - from scripture. Yes, that's right, Jesus Christ is scripturally derived. That's what Philo started as you might recall. The scholarship showing the midrashing is again volumous. I'll just give a few highlights.

- Romans “16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,” See, Paul is willing to tell you anything to convert you: - 1Corinthians "9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some."

- and for my favorite midrashes, Zechariah 9:9 seems to be the midrash for Jesus coming into Jerusalem on an ass . . . or a colt . . . or both depending on which gospel you read!

- here's a pretty good one, - Isaiah 7:14 says a lord shall be born of a virgin and called Immanual. The Gospel of Matthewe quotes this even calling Jesus Christ Emannuel.

- http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen043.html this link is still up as of when I've re-written to polish up my "Gospel of Truth"; so, I'll go ahead and mention it again!

Once again, throughout the New Testament, they tell you, we made it up; Jesus Christ is derived from scripture. They say repeatedly, 'according to scripture.' I'd like to think this is pretty clear. True christians will just say, "that's prophecy", at which point is impossible to help them.

Getting back to the Romans 16:25 passage . . . it mentions something about mysteries. All the sungod priests since at least Greek times kept the mythology as 'mysteries.' Well, according to this Herodotus passage(book 2, chapter 61 of the "Histories"(de silencourt translation)}, the Egyptians also practiced keeping the mythology a mystery. Back then, there were tests to see if your mythology was worth listening to: in Dideche Chapter 11. An example in the New testament is 1John4:1.

Readers might wonder why I havn't mentioned much about the gospels. The gospels come before the Pauline epistles, right? All I can say is it's well known amongst New Testament scholars that the Pauline epistles came before the Gospels. If that's not proof enough that they are made up, well, I can't help you! But, I'm going to now put in evidences about Jesus Christ being a sungod.

- Origin “Against Celsus”-1-47 says that “For in the 18th book of his Antiquities31463146 [ἀρχαιολογίας. S.] Cf. Joseph., Antiq., book xviii. c. v. sec.2. of the Jews, Josephus bears witnessto John as having been a Baptist, and as promising purification tothose who underwent the rite. Now this writer, although notbelieving in Jesus as the Christ”

Further along, not much more than a sentence or two!

“Paul, a genuine disciple of Jesus,says that he regarded this James as a brother of the Lord, not so muchon account of their relationship by blood, or of their being brought uptogether, as because of his virtue and doctrine.” This passage really says it all; that James brother of Jesus is not like a brother brother, but brother to a club, that of the Jesus christ club; and it also is proof that James the Just has been overwritten by Jesus Christ. But as Justin Martyr says, Jesus Christ is just a sungod.

- Justin Martyr ‘defended himself from Pagans(Christians word for those who are not christian), by saying “CHAPTER XXI — ANALOGIES TO THE HISTORY OF CHRIST.

And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound NOTHING DIFFERENT from WHAT YOU BELIEVE regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter: Mercury, the interpreting word and teacher of all;AEsculapius, who, though he was a great physician, was struck by a thunderbolt, and so ascended to heaven; and Bacchus too, after he had been torn limb from limb; and Hercules, when he had committed himself to the flames to escape his toils; and the sons of Leda, and Dioscuri; andPerseus, son of Danae; and Bellerophon, who, though sprung from mortals, rose to heaven on the horse Pegasus. For what shall I say of Ariadne, and those who, like her, have been declared to be set among the stars?

- And for my favorite smoking gun, -"then he clearly manifested himself to be the son of god. For had he not come in the flesh, how should men have been able looked upon him, that they might be saved?"

This is in the Epistle of Barnabas chapter 4:13-14. Jesus Christ is different from all sungods before him; he's suppose to be historical. Here, we see a logical reasoning for why somebody felt they needed to historicise the sungods. Perhaps Barnabas wrote or started the Gospel of Mark; we probably will never know.

- Iraeneus "Against Heresies", book 3, chapter 11, section 7. Here, it is revealed that Mathew comes from the Ebonites, Luke comes from Marcion(who put together the gospels and Pauline epistles for the first time), and John comes from a Valentinus, and mark comes from some 'separatists.' This Iraeneus passage is so frustrating! He knocks out three of the four gospels in terms of authorship; but, leaves the Gospel of Mark a mystery. He does indicate that the Gospel of Mark was not written by an individual, but a community or at least more than one person.

As I've indicated, mythological religion is the algebraic X standing for I don't know. Whenever someone does something great, someone else decides to go another direction to get the money and power they covet. Before Christianity, there was a semi-rational philosophies of Platonism. If you read about Clement and Origen and Tertullian, you'll see they were trying to create an easier philosophy than the semi-mathematical Platonisms.

- Tertulian who said, "I believe because it is absurd." Further "The Son of God was born: there is no shame, because it is shameful.

And the Son of God died: it is wholly credible, because it is unsound.

And, buried, He rose again: it is certain, because impossible."

Where people want to be fooled, there's always somebody willing to oblige them,


- "XXXI. That it will be necessary sometimes to use falsehood as a remedy for the benefit of those who require such a mode of treatment(that is Eusebius Preparatio Evangelica, book 12, chapter 31." This is the chapter heading(the style of the age); if you go to this book and the chapter, you'll see that Eusebius quotes Plato's Laws.


Eusebius was Emperor Constantine's right hand man. They organised the Nicene conferences to decide who of the different christianities was to make the official Catholic Christianity. But, that history more or less has to do with other history other than sungods; so, I'm stopping here.


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  1. someday when I re-edit this 'again' I'll have to relate the old testament to the new by means of the evidences(dead sea scrolls) of Jesus name just being Joshua of the old testment.

    Acts 7:45 & Hebrews 4:8

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  2. Romans 16:11 has it that Paul is a Herodian.

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  3. First, this book isn't as well written as say Robert Eisenman's "James Brother of Jesus" or "The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth" from John Allegro; but, Mr Price manages to make it coherent and bring in many insights.

    Over a decade ago now, Robert Eisenman pretty much shook up the New Testament world by showing that if anybody is the historical Jesus, it was James the Just; well, I have found a book which can be found nowhere except my grossmont college library; i think it's called from Ezekiel to paul. It was written in the 1960s; but anyways, seems that his book has called into question the very historicity of Paul. Well, the questioning of Paul as a historical figure went much further as Robert Price found - back to the 1800s(likewise, if you read "The Bible UnEarthed", you'll see that the linguistic analyses of the 1800s Germans led to much understanding of the old testament). I don't want to get into much of what Robert Price shows; seems to me his most major insight is the connection between Paul and a Simon Magus; his best evidence is an obscure much later apocrcyhile work. I expect much arguement over this point alone.

    When I read Robert Eisenman's "James the Brother of Jesus", I couldn't help thinking that Paul was Josephus. Robert Eisenman shows that Paul killed James the Just mostly by showing the correspondences between the vivid historically details writings of Josephus and some apocryphile new testament writings. It just seemed to me odd that Josephus could know so much about the events of James the Just. Josephus was a guy who penetrated into every different Jewish religion back then; who else could get so close to James the Just in the first place? I have found one piece of Josephus life as written in his books and Paul(the boat sinking in the aegean) which is remarkably word for word; but, scholars will say, awe, later writers just wrote the book of acts based on Josephus writings. Maybe so, but then again, if Jesus Christ is just a hellenistic overwright for James the Just, then why can't Paul be an overwright for Josephus?(Marcion had the motive here; and a lot of Robert Price's major insights comes from analysing the relationship between Pauline writings and Marcion of Antioch; you know, the one with that remarkable church cut into the top of the hill overlooking the Antioch city?!) I have something else I've found from Robert Eisenman which I think Mr Price has missed.

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  4. In Mr Eisenman's "The New Testament Code", he shows some remarkable linguistic shorthands for various people in the Josephus circle; that of Timothy for Titus, a Silas as equivalent linguistic form shorthand for a Silvanus(yes, the silas of the Da Vinci Code), a Erastus could correspond to Epaphroditus. Epaphroditus who funded the works of Josephus appears in the New Testament Pauline writings as an apostle for the lord. References would be acts 19:22, 2Timothy4:20, Romans 16:23. All these characters in the Josephus circle as shown historically throughout Eisenman's works appear in the Pauline epistles; all except Josephus! Where does Josephus go? Shoot, where does James the Just go as Robert Eisenman writes? That's right, they were overwritten for whatever reasons; James the Just replaced by Jesus Christ, and Josephus by Paul(who may still combine features of other characters including Simon Magus; this doesn't take away from my arguement; if Paul can be chosen between Josephus's "saul" and Simon Magus, then why can't Josephus likewise be combined?)

    Josephus and Roman Emperor's Vespasian and Titus were trying to take out the Messianic strain of Jews and make a less bloody savior god; they choose Vespasian; at the end of Josephus's Wars of the Jews, he makes Vespasian the Messiah to save the Jews and everyone else. But, well, we don't know what happened to Josephus; we know Titus died of natural causes, but Epiphroditus was assasinated by an Emperor Domitian for spreading some odd religion; a month or so later, Domitian was assasinated by a Stephen for killing some christians . . . and on and on it went from there. My point here is that Emperor Domitian put a stop to what Josephus, Emperors Vespasian/Titus, and Epiphroditus were doing; giving freedom to later myth makers to do what they will; they choose to overwright various people.

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  5. Jake: "Marcion's "Paul" is in large part based on Simon of Samaria as has been argued by Hermann Detering in his The Falsified Paul and by Robert M. Price in his The Amazing Colossal Apostle. Ireneus indicates that Marcion did indeed develop his doctrines from earlier "heretical" sources.
    In Against Heresies, 3:13:1, it is stated that the Marconites believed that Paul alone knew the truth, and that to him the mystery was manifested by revelation. In Against Heresies, 1:27:1-2 it is stated that Cerdo had his system from the followers of Simon, and Marcion of Pontus succeeded him, and developed his doctrine."

    Hi Jake,
    the "earlier heretical sources" were the two "lawless ones" hanging on crosses alongside Jesus in the gospel of Mark, ie Paul and Simon (said to be of Cyrene in the story). Simon (Mark) was the author of the "Euaggelion" and it was an allegorical narrative based on Paul's teachings, i.e. "Apostolikon". The proto-orthodox believed that Marcion's gospel was based on Luke but it seems much more probable that this is a mistaken belief which was computed by the Catholic church (Irenaeus and Tertullian) because of its own dogma that Luke was Paul's physician . Marcion most likely used an early version of Mark. (https://sites.google.com/site/inglisonmarcion/Home/marcion/conclusions/is-marcion-s-gospel-based-on-mark). The later patristic "reconstructions" of Marcion's "Euaggelion" are for all intents and purposes useless. They start with the wrong sourcing assumption.

    My best guess is that the Jesus "lore" or "parables of Jesus" derive largely from the narrative of Simon/Mark. I have discovered some things about the way Mark is written that make it hard to argue that the earliest gospel used pre-existing narratives or parables. The subsequent synoptics are either dependent on the earliest gospel or set new apothegmata in polemics with Mark, or add synthetic material in attempts to show that Simon/Mark was "incomplete" account of the Jesus witness. Matthew re-wrote the gospel to suit the following of the Nazarenes who accepted Paul's cross after the 70CE war, namely mixing the Twelve with the core of Jesus disciples. The two groups were separate originally. The newer version of the gospel led on one hand to a merger of the Matthean Christians and some portions of the Pauline/Simonian movement (which later created Luke and Acts). The hard core of the original Pauline/Simonian faith migrated to Marcion's church and some of it to the Valentinians, a branch of which later created the John's version of the gospel (as per Raymond Brown). This is my best guess in tracking the original development. It assumes both Paul and Simon/Mark were active in 1 century CE.

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  6. The above was a recent interesting exchange about who wrote the Gospel of Mark.

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  7. Wiki now has some entries argueing for the astrological nature of the Judeo-Chrisitan mythology,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology_in_the_Bible#Jesus_as_solar_deity

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  8. http://www.livescience.com/40227-bronze-age-sundial-grave.html

    Ukranian sundial(1300B.C.)

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  9. http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/729-a-conversation-on-the-caesars-messiah-thesis.html

    Caesar's coins have gospel as 'the good news.' and some stuff about Vespasian on Mount Carmel

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  10. According to Clement of Alexandria, Stromateis 7.106.4. Basilides was said
    > to be a disciple of Glaucias, the interpreter (hermenea) of Peter. Since
    > Clement knew and quoted Basilides' works, we can presume the claim goes
    > back to Basilides himself. Clement dates Basilides vaguely to the reigns of
    > Hadrian and Antonius Pius. This would make Papias and Basilides near
    > contemporaries. (See Jesus and the Eyewitnesses by Richard Bauckham, page
    > 237 ff).

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  11. The use Josephus by the gospel writers can be rescued from higher criticism by proposing unattested oral tradition; Josephus having the *only* record of the stories.

    Simon bar Gioras welcomed into the temple with palm branches to cleanse the sacred precinct from the “thieves” who infested it

    The interrogation and flogging of Jesus ben-Ananias, in trouble for predicting the destruction of the temple

    The trial and condemnation of Zacharias, the son of Baris, by a Zealot Sanhedrin.

    The phonetic similarity between Joseph of Arimathea and Josephus bar Matthias.

    Three crucified men, (including two revolutionaries who perish cf. Mark 15:27 par), taken down at the behest of Joseph/Josephus by appeal to the Roman authority in charge.

    Jake

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  12. Iranaes as I point out in my gospel of truth above gives away who wrote which gospel. But, one he doesn't say which person, but a people; he says Mark was written by the separatists.

    Well, I've found who the separatists are - the Essenes. "Essenes, a separatist Jewish sect, wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls," this from the link below

    https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/canon1.html

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  13. Hello Jiri Severa, Jim Farrell and JM(Jesus Mysteries),

    Severa brings up something about a Cerinthus which I'm sure is valuable. Maybe I'll read my first Bart Ehrman book.

    Jim Farrell, I argued that the Essenes may be the Essenes. Separatists is a vague term that can apply to many peoples. All I'm doing is noting that Irenaeus points out groups associated with which gospel. In the end, he says separatists with the Gospel of Mark. I would think that points in the direction of who wrote it. I would think that we should be using this as a clue to who wrote the first gospel(although which gospel is first is often up for debate as well). Prefer certainly doesn't way 'wrote'; it's definitely inconclusive there; but, one could argue that suggests some separatists wrote the gospel. You seem to me to be suggesting that someone wrote all these gospels, and then, Ebionites found it and preferred it, likewise, Marcion found Luke and preferred it, and then Valentinus found John and preferred it. And oh yes, these separatists, whoever they are, found the gospel of Mark and preferred it over some other gospels. Maybe Jiri's point above points to such a scenario; but, I'm thinking the simply hypothesis here is, for instance, Marcion preferred the gospel of Luke for which he had a pretty major hand in composing. Getting on to trying to find out who's these separatists, a mystery I would think we'd want to know . . .

    I thought about looking up and seeing if Robert Eisenman says anything about separatists. As it turns out, he does. Unfortunately, he seems to label both Essenes and Herodians are separatists. Those who have read his work should probably see that Robert Eisenman suggests that James the Just movement and the Herodians were both championing and trying to take over a new more expanded Jewish religious movement where even Gentiles can be part of gods plan. Getting on to what Robert Eisenman says about separatists . . .

    Page 160 of his James brother of Jesus, well, the James community is suppose to separate from unjust and go live in the wilderness and prepare for the way of god. He further notes that Herodians have been argued to be separatists. He actually says he had in the previous 160 pages somewhere said that both Essenes and Herodians are separatists. There's plenty more pages referenced in the index, but I'll just end with what he says on pages 256-257 . . .

    Paraphrasing, 'Eusebius, Epiphanius, and Jerome all consider James the Just a Nazirite, or essene, or a separatist. He further notes this separatists commonality is known to Paul.

    I think the above proves enough who the separatists are, even if it still presents problems. Which separatists? One could argue the Ebionites wrote Matthew as a correction to the Herodian separatists Gospel of Mark(which has various things like a daughter doing some wicked dance and at the end asks/suggest to a Herodian for John the Baptists head, and James the less and so on. I'm going to leave it at that.

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  14. "It is not through ignorance of the things admired by them, but through contempt of their useless labor, that we think little of these matters, turning our souls to better things." Here Eusebius, Emperor Constantine's right hand man for setting up the Nicene councils to determine which gospels and epistles to include in the New Testament, and making the Nicene creed, is essentially arguing for end of the world religion.

    Other Christians of christianities formative time also said much the same thing . . .

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  15. Basil of Caesarea said, "a matter of no interest to us whether the Earth is a sphere or a cylinder or a disk, or concave in the middle like a fan."

    Lactantius remarked that the study of Astronomy is "bad and senseless."

    L. Sprague De Camp doesn't say where got these from. I'm getting them from his "Ancient Engineers" chapter 8 - Oriental engineers, page 262

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  16. googling, I find some more(the Eusebius quote is probably from his Ecclesiacles book.

    St Augustine quote "Christians do not think it a source of happiness to know the causes of the great physical movements of the world, of the tides and the elements; but that they count only him happy who aquires the knowledge which serves to deliver him from moral error; that would endanger his salvation."

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  17. St. Clement of Alexandria speaks "for some, enticed by the philtres of handmaidens, neglect their mitress philosophy, and grow old, some in music, others in geometry, others in grammar, and the greatest part in rhetoric. But as the vulgar sciences are intended to wait upon philosophy, their mistress, so also philosophy itself must wait upon the possession of wisdom; for philosophy is a study, a discipline, but wisdom is the knowledge of things divine and human, and their causes. Wisdom, therefore, has superiority over philosophy, as the latter has over elementary instruction."

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  18. http://astrotheology.net/jonah-and-the-whale-is-an-ancient-sun-myth/

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  19. Savina Teubals wrote some books "Sarah the Priestess", where she analyses the stories of Sarah and Hagar in terms of Mesopotamian and Ugaritic texts. It should be pointed out first that archaeologists for hundreds of years now, found Venus figurines, http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/Images/venusfigs.jpg , all over the mediterraenean. They seem to date for tens of thousands of years, almost from the cave painters on down to say Egyptian times. Seems that the earliest religions were matriarchal, based on female. It's been argued many times that it seems that religion and society switched from female centrality to male dominated societies of Greeks and Hebrews.

    The stories of Sarah and Hagar are apparently about the male gods dominating the female gods. The whole story of Abraham traveling from haram, to Terah, from Ur is a kind of ritual. Sarah represents a moon god and so do the names of Terah(an Aramanean moon god, "Terah the father of Abraham, is specifically mentioned at Joshua 24:2 in connection with idolatry. And, it is interesting to note that linguists have for many years related the name of Terah to a Hebrew root meaning either "moon" or "month"", http://www.truthmagazine.com/archives/volume20/GOT020218.html ). Also Labana means white, and Rebecca has a brother Laban. A biblical quote all the way to book Joshua(I know!) seems central here, "24:2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods."

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  20. First, I'd like to note that "The Bible Unearthed" was my first science of the bible book. I've since found out about sungods, and well, I'm currently enjoying Tim Callahan's "Secret Origins of the Bible", which I'm finding is a kind of comparative mythology version of "The Bible Unearthed"!

    I like this video for its new finding about Ywh and Midianites in southern Jordan . . . both bibilical and archaeological confirmation on that! Well, I found something in Callahan's book, page 181, where he points out that the movements and battles . . . the conquest of canaan seem to refer to an ealier south Jordan conquest, and that this was rewritten Dueteronomically in Judges/Joshua. "The Transjordan conquests are part of the J and E narratives, those prophets who lived before the time of Jeremiah and his Dueteronomists contemporaries, such prophets as Isaiah, Amos, Hosea, and Michah, allude to the Exodus but not to the conquest of canaan. None mention Joshua. The only mention of a conquest of Jericho are in Kings and Joshua."

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  21. Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

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    1. Yep, there's tons more where all this came from!

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  23. "It is impossible to govern a mob of women, or the whole mixed multitude, by philosophical reason and to exhort them to piety, holiness, and faith; we must also employ superstition with its fables and prodigies. For the thunder, the abyss, the trident, the torches, the serpents, the thyrsi of the gods, are fables, as is all ancient theology; but the legislature introduces these things as bugbears to those who are children in understanding." Strabo

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    1. Checking out Stabo's wiki proves interesting in light of the above quote,

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabo

      He lived from 64/5 B.C. to 24 A.D. He was born to an affluent family from Amaseia in Pontus(modern Turkey). Went to Rome and Corinth . . . he was educated in Nysa(see Acharya S's "Did Moses Exist", and I hint to Nysa's importance here in the gospel of truth) . . . "possessing a distinct intellectual curiosity of Homeric literature and the interpretation of epics" . . . "when in rome, he studied philosophy with the Peripatetic Xenarchus a highly respected tutor in Augustus's court.", where Strabo may have picked up 'Stoic' leanings. The Q theory is about melding the story of Jesus Christ with Stoic philosophy . . . Strabo was a geographer; he got some of his data from Eratostheses, whom I point out in my gospel of truth and elsewhere that Eratosthenes started making mythology tales based on twelve zodiacal constellations; could Strabo have known of these?

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    2. Modern scholars of the Gospels would outright reject any theory of say Strabo making the gospel of Mark. One major reason would be that Mark is dated to at or after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 66 A.D.; the Gospel mentions this event.

      This may be; but, could there have been a proto-Mark. Many scholars suggest that the gospel did go through an evolution. Strabo wrote in Greek; and despite his travels, there's no mention of him actually visiting Jerusalem. We know of geographic mistakes in Mark. Despite Strabo being a geographer, he could have made these mistakes.

      Still, if Mark is an evolution of people touching it up, then why didn't anybody clean up the geographic mistake?

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    3. I can't find anybody with a theory that Strabo started the Gospel of mark, but I did find some notes/references in a book, "Studies in the Gospel of Mark" by a Martin Hengal, - note 70 on pages 9-11

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  24. Paul in Roman's 13,

    "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

    6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."

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  25. Paul in Roman's 3:7 "Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” 8 Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”?"

    In 1Corinthians 9:20, Paul says he must be everything to everyone to convert everyone. He'll say anything he has to, to convert,

    "Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings."

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  26. Jeremiah 8:8, oops, the lying pen of the scribes!

    "“‘How can you say, “We are wise;
    Adonai’s Torah is with us,”
    when in fact the lying pen of the scribes
    has turned it into falsehood?"

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  27. Isaiah 7:14New International Version (NIV)

    14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you[a] a sign: The virgin[b] will conceive and give birth to a son, and[c] will call him Immanuel.[d]

    A major example of midrash is Isaiah 7:14. Here, the Gospel writers rely on a Septuagint mistranslation of the original Old Testament. The Septuagint is a 300 B.C. Greek translation of the Old Testament. It mistranlates young woman as virgin. The midrashers took this mistranslation at face value.

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  28. Hebrews chapter 7,

    "Jesus and the Priesthood of Melchizedek

    11 So if perfection had in fact been possible through the Levitical priesthood—for on that basis the people received the law—what further need would there have been for another priest to arise, said to be in the order of Melchizedek and not in Aaron’s order? 12 For when the priesthood changes, a change in the law must come as well. 13 Yet the one these things are spoken about belongs to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever officiated at the altar. 14 For it is clear that our Lord is descended from Judah, yet Moses said nothing about priests in connection with that tribe. 15 And this is even clearer if another priest arises in the likeness of Melchizedek, 16 who has become a priest not by a legal regulation about physical descent but by the power of an indestructible life. 17 For here is the testimony about him: “You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.”

    - The suggestion is here, we see that Jesus Christ is invented to be similar to Melchizedek.

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  29. "15 And this is even clearer if another priest arises in the likeness of Melchizedek, 16 "

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  30. 1 Thessalonians 2

    "the Jews:
    2:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
    2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. "

    Here we have Paul accusing Jews as "Christ killers." If Jesus Christ had lived, then why didn't they know of him? "Christ killers" which was a label that traveled with them all through the dark ages up Nazi Germany is proof that Jesus Christ did not exist.

    At the end of the selected quote, we see the use of messianic end of the world religion to spread fear . . .to make people believe, or else they'll somehow 'go to hell.'

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  31. 1 Thessalonians 2

    "Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming? "

    At almost the last sentence of 1 Thess 2, we have further proof Jesus Christ never existed. Here Paul, like decades later than the supposed life of Jesus Christ saying, are you not in the presence of the lord now? This is a contradiction, and hinting that Jesus never came in the first place. He's trying to comfort those, that he will come; you'll see; just keep believing in my religion. I pointed out a similar passage in the epistle of James.

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  32. 2 Thessalonians 2

    "2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

    Once again, we see Paul comforting those who are wondering 'when' this messiah is going to come and end the world, because, it hasn't happened yet!

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  33. more 2 Thessalonians, this time chapter 3, where it commands people to stop listening to others that might contradict what they(Paul and other Christians) say,

    "3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."

    and another, "3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed."

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  34. Paul mentions rivals ideas of Jesus, 2Corinthians11.4 , "For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough."

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  35. "There is nothing so easy as by sheer volubility to deceive a common crown or an uneducated congregation." Saint Jerome (Epistle lii, 8)

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  36. The flood story is the last tablet of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Close to the beginning is "But what shall answer the city, the populace, and the elders?. A few pages later, "How could I say evil things in the assembly of the gods. ordering a catastrophe to destroy my people!"

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  37. http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen043.html this link is still up as of when I've re-written to polish up my "Gospel of Truth"; so, I'll go ahead and mention it again!

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  38. Matthew 8:22 let the dead bury the dead.

    Matthew 7:15 "But beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but within are ravening wolves." . . . so believe in me, but don't believe what other prophets say.

    Matthew 10:21, "But brother shall deliver up brother to death, and father child; and children shall rise up against parents and shall put them to death;" . . . and 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to send peace upon the earth: I have not come to send peace, but a sword."

    Matthew 12:34, "Offspring of vipers!" Again, the New Testament is anti-Jewish. Here Jesus is calling Jews offspring of vipers. . . . again in Matthew 16:6 "And Jesus said to them, See and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." and then 16:12 "Then they comprehended that he did not speak of being beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Once again, the Jews are deomonized. Pharisees and Sadducees are different Jewish sects. . . . more proof that Jesus Christ is made up to pascify the messianic Jews.

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  39. Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you." and 24:5, "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." . . . here, we have Jesus Christ saying believe me, but not others saying they are prophets and other Christs. . . . further 24:11 "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." then 24:24,

    24:7, "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places." . . . 24:13, "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." and 24:14, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." . . . Jesus Christ is a messianic figure; Christianity and even the old testaments flood story, is end of the world religion. And that's what they did when they took over the Roman empire. They thought that by ending the Roman empire, they'd end the entire world.

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  40. Matthew 23 is really anti-Jewish(more proof that the New Testament is a Roman/Herodian conspiracy); it goes on and on about "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!" throughout the entire chapter!

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  41. In Matthew, the same thing in Mark happens; Pontus Pilate asks the Jews who they'd rather have released - Jesus Christ or the criminal Barrabas. The Jews are made to choose the criminal. Pontus Pilate, in Matthew 27:24, "When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it."

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  42. Christians constantly go around saying, give us money to save the poor and weak, but they never see that their god/jesus Christ hasn't used their infinit power to do so; here's a funny little passage to the affect!

    Matthew 27:40"And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross."

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  43. Luke 14:26, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

    Luke 19:27, "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

    - John 8:44, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

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  44. Acts 26:28 "Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian. Agrippa is a Herodian, who's saved Paul from the Jews killing him.

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  45. Acts 1:16, it was necessary that the scripture should be fulfilled,

    this language suggests that the midrashing of the old testament is nothing more than that - midrashing, not prophecy. Prophecy is a spin-doctoring to make midrashing sould real.

    Acts 2:21, those who merely say the word Christ shall be saved. Presumably everyone else will go to hell. This is the language of a gangster, a cult,

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  46. Barnabas and Saul/Paul first met in Antioch . . . where Christians were called such for the first time Acts 11:26

    The church of Antioch, https://holylandphotos.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tcmcaosp01.jpg

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  47. Acts 25:19 , "But had certain questions against him of their own superstition, and of one Jesus, which was dead, whom Paul affirmed to be alive."

    Paul's evangelism comes after the supposed life of Jesus Christ; yet here, Paul is asserting that Jesus Christ is still alive! Not to mention, throughout his epistles, Paul doesn't actually know of Jesus Christ, but derives him from scripture!

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  48. Acts 23:8 "For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both."

    How does any jew say there is no resurrection? Why is there any dispute of such a fact at all?

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  49. Acts

    17:2 ,"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,"

    17:11 "in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

    . . . deriving Jesus Christ from scripture; nobody actually knew of any Jesus Christ.

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  50. Mark 13:1-2 mentions the temple of Jerusalem Luke 21:5-6/Matt 24:1-2 also mentions the destruction of the Temple.

    These mentions of the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem of 66A.D. dates the Gospels to after then . . . not around 30 or even 40 A.D.

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  51. More evidence the Gospels are made up is similar to how linguists suspect Moses did not write the Torah; he describes his own death.

    first person is someone telling you his or her story, and second person is you being told how you should do something, third person. This is where the narrator doesn't refer to him or herself - The Gospels are third person, a narrator who's not speaking from actually being there.

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  52. It's become clear amongst New Testament scholars that Marcion wrote a "Gospel of the Lord" which influenced others to make their own Gospels.

    Gospel of Luke mentions that he's summarized and organized the findings of many before him in chapter one. He mentions a Theophilus, who is the first Christian bishop of Antioch(where Acts says Christians were first called).

    Theophilus wrote a book Ad Autolychus, where he makes no mention of the Gospels. Ad Autolychus is dated to around 180 A.D.

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  53. Origen notes what the four gospels are based on(previous writings),

    "The church has four gospels, heresy many, from among which a certain one is written according to the Egyptians, another according to the twelve apostles. Even Basilides dared to write a gospel and to entitle it by his own name." - Origin, Homily on Luke 1.1

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  54. Another church father, Epiphanius of Salamis weighed in on Luke's 1.1,

    "Forasmuch as many have taken in hand," by which he would intimate that there have been many undertakers of the like work. Among them, I suppose, were Cerenthis, Merinthus, and others."

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  55. Jerome in the preface to his commentary on Matthew, notes on Luke's chapter 1.1,

    "The evangelist Luke declares that there were many who wrote gospels, when he says, "forasmuch as many, etc...." which being published by various authors, gave rise to several heresies. They were such as that according to the Egyptians, and Thomas, and Matthias, and Bartholomew, that of the twelve apostles, and Basilides, and Apelles, and others which it would be tedious to enumerate."

    - three church fathers all agree and state there were many various writings before the four canonical gospels.

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  56. Acts and Luke coded up Josephus. I've shown the Acts passages almost word for word. In luke, they are,

    The census under Quirinius/Cyrenius
    The three Jewish rebel leaders
    The death of Herod Agrippa
    Various aspects of Felix's life
    The tetrarch Lysanias
    The "parable of the hated king"
    The famine during the reign of Claudius
    Pilate's aggressions

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  57. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/theodotusexcerpts.html , Clement's(of Alexandria)Excerpta ex Theodotus, 25.2

    "He(Valentinus) says the Apostles were substituted for the twelve signs of the Zodiac, for, as birth is directed by them, so is rebirth by the Apostles."

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  58. Clementine homoliee, 2:23, " and as the Lord had twelve apostles, bearing the number of the twelve months of the sun,"

    . . . and there's more about John the Baptists being related to the moon and the thirty days of the month.

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  59. Simon a Disciple of the Baptist.






    The Clementine Homilies — Pseudo-Clementine Literature
    "But that he came to deal with the doctrines of religion happened on this wise. There was one John, a day-baptist, [934] who was also, according to the method of combination, the forerunner of our Lord Jesus; and as the Lord had twelve apostles, bearing the number of the twelve months of the sun, so also he, John, had thirty chief men, fulfilling the monthly reckoning of the moon, in which number was a certain woman called Helena, [935] that not even this might be without a dispensational significance. For a woman, being half a man, made up the imperfect number of the triacontad; as also in the case of the moon, whose revolution does not make the complete course of the month. [936] But of these thirty, the first and the most esteemed by John was Simon; and the reason of his not being chief after the death of John was as follows: "

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  60. I've noted that a Origen passage shows that James the Just is not a blood brother of Jesus Christ, but a member of the gang that believes in a Jesus Christ. If you read the passage in full, in Origen's Contra Celsus 1-47, we fine more!

    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/04161.htm

    We find that Origen notes that Josephus does not know of and/or believe in a Jesus Christ - "Now this writer, although not believing in Jesus as the Christ,"

    . . . he then goes on to mention the fight over the Temple between James the Just and the Herodians/Romaans.

    "Chapter 47

    I would like to say to Celsus, who represents the Jew as accepting somehow John as a Baptist, who baptized Jesus, that the existence of John the Baptist, baptizing for the remission of sins, is related by one who lived no great length of time after John and Jesus. For in the 18th book of his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus bears witness to John as having been a Baptist, and as promising purification to those who underwent the rite. Now this writer, although not believing in Jesus as the Christ, in seeking after the cause of the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple, whereas he ought to have said that the conspiracy against Jesus was the cause of these calamities befalling the people, since they put to death Christ, who was a prophet, says nevertheless— being, although against his will, not far from the truth— that these disasters happened to the Jews as a punishment for the death of James the Just, who was a brother of Jesus (called Christ),— the Jews having put him to death, although he was a man most distinguished for his justice. Paul, a genuine disciple of Jesus, says that he regarded this James as a brother of the Lord, not so much on account of their relationship by blood, or of their being brought up together, as because of his virtue and doctrine. If, then, he says that it was on account of James that the desolation of Jerusalem was made to overtake the Jews, how should it not be more in accordance with reason to say that it happened on account (of the death) of Jesus Christ, of whose divinity so many Churches are witnesses, composed of those who have been convened from a flood of sins, and who have joined themselves to the Creator, and who refer all their actions to His good pleasure."

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  61. Eusebius, preparation evangelica(I ch ix-x, El is Saturn, and the King is considered El, and is deified as the 'star' Saturn.

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  62. Malachi 4.2, "But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings."

    Malachi goes back to 400 B.C. time. That's pretty far back for such a prophecy to have any bearing on the New Testament. But, there it is, the Son of god is the "Sun" of god. This is how the son of god is spelled in Malachi - S U N. The coming Messiah is a sungod.

    People got on Acharya S for saying "the son of god is the Sun of God." But, there it is in Malachi 4.2 - clear as a whistle.

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  63. "Chapter LXX.—Tumult Raised by Saul.
    “And when matters were at that point that they should come and be baptized, some one of our enemies,596 entering the temple with a few men, began to cry out, and to say, ‘What mean ye, O men of Israel? Why are you so easily hurried on? Why are ye led headlong by most miserable men, who are deceived by Simon, a magician?’ While he was thus speaking, and adding more to the same effect, and while James the bishop was refuting him, he began to excite the people and to raise a tumult, so that the people might not be able to hear what was said. Therefore he began to drive all into confusion with shouting, and to undo what had been arranged with much labour, and at the same time to reproach the priests, and to enrage them with revilings and abuse, and, like a madman, to excite every one to murder, saying, ‘What do ye? Why do ye hesitate? Oh sluggish and inert, why do we not lay hands upon them, and pull all these fellows to pieces?’ When he had said this, he first, seizing a strong brand from the altar, set the example of smiting. Then others also, seeing him, were carried away with like readiness. Then ensued a tumult on either side, of the beating and the beaten. Much blood is shed; there is a confused flight, in the midst of which that enemy attacked James, and threw him headlong from the top of the steps; and supposing him to be dead, he cared not to inflict further violence upon him.”" - Chapter LXX.—Tumult Raised by Saul.

    - Here, in the Psuedo-Clementine recognitions, we have an attack on James the Just by Paul mentioned. Saul is Paul.

    Before this revealing passage, there was much about how the Jews were waiting for a Messiah, and one never came. The Jews were waiting and one never came; Paul for one was having known of it; so, he killed James the Just and demonized the Jews as Christ killers.

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  64. I read your comment on the amazon page about Andrew D. Benson book - The (true) Origins of Christianity and the Bible. Someone says there is a pdf going around on the internet. Do you know where or do you have this pdf and could you send it to me? I only have parts of the book no via the way back machine.
    Yours Sincerely,
    Hall

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  65. Hello A DutchCMS,

    I don't suppose your in Europe? I'm thinking I could just use a copy machine, and mail you a free copy.

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    1. On the other hand, I could make a pdf of it as well.

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    2. I also have a pretty substantially polished up and expanded "Gospel of Truth" posted closer to the top of this blog now.

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  66. Hi there,

    Well if you made a pdf or if you send me a copy by mail it would both be a lot of trouble so either way I would greatly appreciate it. And of course I am willing to pay for your expenses.

    Yes, I live in Europe in The Netherlands ;)

    Is there anyway we can talk by e-mail instead of via the comments? I was looking for an e-mail address on you profile page but could not find it. I could post my e-mail address in the next message here and than you don't approve my comment but than you have my e-mail address.

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    1. Hello A DutchCMS,

      Yea, I put up the approve comments, really, because I figured I wouldn't get many messages in the first place!

      I didn't even think about putting in my own personal email. I generally don't expect to get much interest. Recently, I have learned of some interesting people viewing my blog here! One was a mathematician who wrote the great history of Algebraic Geometry article that I posted. It dawned on me after we had talked. I didn't realize who he was in our few message exchanges! He hasn't posted since.

      So far, I'm back and forth about posting personal info here. I guess I'll just go with your idea for now. I can get your email and then send you mine. I'll delete the message or not even post it if you would like?

      - The pdf I think won't be too much trouble - except time. The pdf pathway is free for both of us!

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  67. you quoted DM Murdock she passed away a couple yrs ago on Christmas day , she was a fine writer and historian her books will be popular after the demise of Christianity .

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    1. Acharya S introduced me to the whole Sungods thing. Curiously, I learned of her work through a Madden football video game messageboard!

      - I'm not sure if Acharya S's "Christ Conspiracy" or Finkelstein and Silberman's "The Bible UnEarthed" came first. But, those books got sent me down a road I never thought I'd go.

      - Despite my best efforts to communicate my ideas to Acharya S(about how both mathematics and poetry are analogies, and mythology is analogy), she was . . . not very receptive.

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