Monday, June 8, 2015

astro picture for the day/ Sophie and Silas from the Da Vinci Code

Image Credit & Copyright: Optical (RGB+Ha): Aldo Mottino & Ezequiel Bellocchio (Argentina); Infrared: ESO/J. Emerson/VISTA.

And what's the connection between mathematics and technology?  Science - experiment and real world data! Dah!

- Sophie confronts Silas. She asks Silas if he murdered who she thinks is her Grandfather. Silas responds with "I am a messenger from god." I find people think in these kinds of ways all the time. It's like they don't want to get close to the truth; they don't want some inner them being exposed.

Even a 400 A.D. Bishop of Constantinople Gregorius of Nyssa noticed this type of thinking and complained,

"People swarm everywhere, talking of incomprehensible matters, in hovels, streets and square, marketplaces, and crossroads. When I ask how many oboloi I have to pay, they answer with hairsplitting arguments about the born and the unborn. If I inquire the price of bread, I am told that the father is greater than the son. I call a servant to tell me whether my bath is ready; he rejoins that the son was created out of nothing."

There an earlier scene of character Sophie with Robert Langdon. They're in a truck and talking about little things. She asks Mr Langdon, "are you a god-fearing man professor." Langdon replies, "I was raised a catholic." For which she correctly replies, "that's not really an answer."

- Some extra about Silas. Silas is a Herodian who had at least one successful fight against the Romans.  This victory led the Jews to think they could fight againgst the Romans.  The Romans wiped out the Essenes on Masada,

Josephus was with the Romans trying to convince the Essenes to just surrender.  They commited mass suicide instead.

- I made a post about what I like to call "the dark side of the force" before.  Well, I've made several.  I posted movie scene from "The Day the Earth Stood Still", and I've wrote some stuff(that very well written) linking these irrationalists techniques to gangs and violence, and then gangs to cults, and cults to religion.   I almost certainly should try a new writeup combining all these thought . . . someday! inventor of the maser/laser dies at 99 years old.  There's some interesting connections in the discovery of the laser. Well, Einstein also, perhaps independently, thought of the laser as well.

- Queensryche's innuendo,

innuendo definition - an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.


  1. Some more examples I've found,

    In Return of the Jedi, C3PO, and R2D2 first go up to Jabba's palace; they first knock on the door; and, before anyone from Jabba's could answer, C3PO says quickly, "there doesn't seem to be anyone here; let's go back and tell master Luke", at which point some robot video camera pops out of the hugh doorway to answer the knock. C3PO statement is about fear(perhaps, in this case justified) and an attempt to avoid, to be vague. I seem to get a lot of movie examples; but, I just got a real life example!

    I e-mailed Foresight institute, at least former President Christine Peterson. She has well a four year degree in chemistry from M.I.T. and she's been involved in nanotech for a long time. I pointed out that a Chris Phoenix couldn't seem to handle or have no response to my e-mailing him Carl Sagan's Cosmos episode 7. For which she replied, to avoid the question much as C3PO above, with the following,

    Christine Peterson

    May 17

    to me

    Hi David -- I am overwhelmed with other work, so unfortunately I can't help with this.

    Thanks for thinking of me!"

  2. Some further generalisations I'm working on,

    "In science, one establishes boundaries by using the least accurate results. In determining personality, shouldn’t we use the scientific personality to determine other’s personality?
    Jacob Bronowski, throughout his works, shows the ethics and spirituality of science. He notes for instance the big three properties that one should be in order to do science – Skepticism, courage to try new ideas out, and honesty when skepticsm shows a result is wrong.

    Innuendoes come into science when some scientists says, “wouldn’t it be great if everyone believed in this pseudo-science, and not this other way?” “Then, . . . here comes the innuendo(such and such would be the case). Today, scientists everywhere refuse to question, because that would be nice, and somehow, questioning of people should not be allowed.
    Jacob Bronowski’s argument against the Naturalistic philosophy is many, but one, he quotes a Waddington. He says, we should find out who we are and stick with it. And who are we? We are the scientifically dependent species. Jacob Bronowski’s point is the three properties noted above.
    The personal values that comes from the scientific personality are respect, sensitivity, and tolerance . . . those who don’t believe in scientific spirit “pretend, forge, bribe
    - Other things I note are axiomatics(assumptions), and over/under generalisations. I find people everywhere reasoning from unfounded assumptions, and over/under generalizing because of unquestioned beliefs.

    1. The reply above explores connections between the innuendoes in the main post text, and Jacob Bronowski "Scientific Ethics."

  3. I remember e-mailing a Jim Lewis, of the Foresight Institute; I asked him if we have any scientific humanist nanotechnologists, He replied,

    "I cannot speak for them." This is a probably a paraphrase; it's been a long time since this small, quick exchange. But, it is accurate.