I've heard of this finding of Homer in the Gospel of Mark(primarily); but, I didn't worry about it. I considered it secondary to astrotheology. And, I still do. But, "TruthSurge" gives enough to prove that the Gospel of Mark does a certain amount of rewriting, recoding up Homer's Odyssey. What really got me excited, and I'm sure I'll self-interpolate and later re-edit my Gospel of Truth again, is that of the Gemini twins. When I tried to read the Gospel of Mark to see if it follows the pattern of the twelve constellations(and it does for the most part), I always found the Gemini twins to be a little bit of a stumbling block. This Homer findings in Mark solve this problem!
TruthSurge has another video series, "Jesus:Hebrew human or Mythical Messiah" where he, for the most part, goes over the Earl Doherty theory of the New Testament and Jesus Christ. In my Gospel of Truth, I point out two passages, one from Paul(whoever he is), and the other from James the Just(presumably) where they're calming down those who they're trying to convert, and saying Jesus Christ will come. I point these two passages out to point out that if Jesus Christ had already come, they wouldn't be saying, "don't worry, my midrash will work". TruthSurge picks out all 41 instances of these; hence, showing that this disproof of Jesus Christ are not just two little passages; its' a major theme of the New Testament/Pauline letters.
TruthSurge also has a two video series on James the Just. He doesn't mention Robert Eisenman; but, the findings amount to the same. That Jesus Christ is a Hellenistic sungod overwright of James the Just.
- In looking up "Christ Killers", I was led to an Amazon book, which then led me to a Melito of Sardis - here's his wiki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melito_of_Sardis
I wrote this as a reply to one reviewer,
- "I haven't read the book. I for one have been using the Christ killer charge against the Jews as proof that Jesus Christ never existed! Does it make sense? Why would Jews kill a Jew, king of the Jews? And! proclame Caesar as their ruler(in Gospel of John). For me, this has suggested that Jesus Christ never existed; so, when Gentiles(Greeks/Romans and anyone else not Jewish) went to the Jews to ask about him, they said, "I don't know what you're talking about." This is in the Gospels. So, the Gentiles said "Christ killers"; you guys(Jews) are spoiling our fun! There has to be a "Sun" of God; otherwise, how else are we to be saved?(Epistle of Barnabas quote).
About that Sun of God in quotes, here's what I found after reading the collective, extant works of Melito of Sardis - "that this was the first-born of God, who was begotten before the sun." This is not the first quote I've found of Christians and church fathers saying things like, the twelve followers of Jesus Christ are the twelve zodiacal constellations. I'll dig them out if you want me to.
Of further note about Melito of Sardis, he was in contact with a Marcus Aurelius. This is not the first time I've wondered if maybe the Gospel of Mark is written by Marcus. Marcus Aurelius also presumably conversed with Justin Martyr. What for? Maybe I need to read Marcus to find some clues. But really, reading the Melito of Sardis wiki is highly intrigueing.
Here's a Jew, Christianized . . . "Trained in the art of rhetorical argumentation, Melito is believed to have been greatly influenced by two Stoic philosophers in particular, namely, Cleanthes and Poseidonius. Also proficient in the allegorical interpretation of Homer" Melito Wiki. Gospel of Mark has stoic poetic puzzles Jesus uses to sound sophisticated. And Homerisms. . . . then again, Melito was writing under the influence of the John Gospel tradition. So, the Gospels had to be known before him. Of course, like Marcion's Gospel of the Lord, and his Pauline cannon, the literature was edited by many hands as they passed down from one Christian writer to another."
And then I noted that that this, along with Melito mentioning before the sungod part(actually meaning, Jesus Christ came before the sun and everything else), Christ killers, is the end part of a speech he made . . . in front of Antoninus Caesar - this guy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoninus_Pius What's interesting here? Antoninus Pius is father of Marcus Aurelius. check out, http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/melito.html Scroll down to the first roman numeral. That's the beginning of his speech to Antoninus Pius. The passages I mentioun are in part V.
I should say that I've suspected Marcus Aurelius before because of some artwork in a Christian temple of Revina. - see this wiki of Galla Placidia, who moved the capital of Rome to Ravenna, and may have invited Germanic barbarians to help sack Rome, to defend herself from Pagans, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Galla_Placidia
Also check out this John Romer Testament video on youtube, where you can get a good look at this Placidia tomb/Christian temple, and see, that the four Gospels are mentioned, and the Mark, representing the Gospel of Mar is spelled Marcus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjyJIfQ5nM
And . . . Antoninus Pius predecessor was Hadrian, who was the last to sack Jerusalem. Antoninus Pius further was the son of a Titus Aurelius Fulvius, who supported Vespasians bid to the Imperial thrown! Vespasian, of course, was named the savior of the Jews at the end of Flavius Josephus's "The Jewish War." The Vespasian who sacked Jerusalem the first time in 66 A.D.
Epistle of Marcus Aurelius . . . found as an appendix to Justin Martyr . . . who famously defended Christianity by saying it's analogous to previous pagan sungods; hence, Jesus Christ is a sungod . . . and as I explain above the subtle hints that Marcus Aurelius sounds like suspiciously involved in Christianity somehow . . . well, here's his epistle of Marcus Aurelius - http://biblehub.com/library/justin/the_first_apology_of_justin/epistle_of_marcus_aurelius_to.htm
ReplyDeleteJefferey Querner, over at yahoo groups, "Jesus Mysteries" found Antonnius Pius, connections to Roman emperors of Christianity, and much else. I quote him here . . .
ReplyDelete"I tend to think of Christianity as the accumulations of destroyed fragments caught up in the gravitational pull to one another after the two great celestial bodies of the Roman empire and the Hasmonean kingdom smashed into one another.
On the Hellenistic end you have the the Cynicism and Stoicism of Jesus' sage wisdom sayings and the Platonism of Philo's Alexandrian Judaism who believe our souls will go to heaven, and on the Zadokite end you have the ultra-nationalists who believe the bodies of the martyrs will rise up from the grave and proclaim the risen Jesus as king for a thousand years. It looks like the Cerinthians then combined these notions into what we see in the Book of Revelation: Satan is defeated by the zombies of the "first resurrection", zombie Jesus returns to rule for 1,000 years, then Satan is set free and we have a second resurrection but this time we get the Platonic or maybe Pythagorean apocalypse where your souls are judged based on what you did.
That "Judaism Lite" that Jim spoke about probably first came from the Antioch Church, where they were clearly trying to bring in Ebionites with their acceptance of the Old Testament, adding Old Testament passages to the Marcionite epistles. If you look at the Pauline Epistles, you will notice that term "Jesus Christ" and "Holy Spirit" used around the OT inserts while "Chr[e]st Jesus" and "Spirit" are clustered around the philosophical parts. The conflict between the Marcionites and the Antioch Church is allegoricized by the fight between Paul and Peter in Galatians. Irenaeus' Apostolic Church instead of trying to fight Paul, "converted" him.
Marcion was said to have created his sect in the year 144, some 8 years after Emperor Hadrian defeated the attempted Messiah, Simon bar Kokhba, and the same year the Emperor Antoninus Pius, Hadrian's adoptive son, resolved a conflict between the rebelious Anatolian cities of Ephesus and Smyrna, which was also right around the same time that Irenaeus claims that Polycarp of Smyrna ran into Marcion in a bathhouse in Rome and called him the firstborn of Satan. Yet Irenaeus also says that Polycarp was a teacher of Valentinus, so in actuality, Polycarp probably became associated with Marcionite Chrestianity right around the time and place Antoninus Pius was reforming the Christ out of Judaism and Jesusism to make them less rebellious, and then when Irenaeus later re-converted his so-called teacher Polycarp to Apostolic Christianity during the time of Emperor Commodus, thanks to his Christian concubine Marcia, the word Christ no longer had any political significance."